[chapter-delegates] New Membership Level

[Philippe Le Roux]

A good rule for making ISOC a club of rich people from rich countrys 
managing the whole Internet. We're far away from the Internet purpose and 
ISOC spirit.

At 18:33 2005-03-03, Richard StClair wrote:

>I think this pretty much sums up what I was thinking. ;-)
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>On Mar 3, 2005, at 12:09, W©©adek Majewski wrote:
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>>Jim,
>>
>>>I want to say clearly that the new membership level is a benefit that 
>>>ISOC is offering and it is completely separate from the benefits that 
>>>Chapters offer.
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>>No, it is NOT separate.
>>
>>First, you decided to disregard all chapter members and display your 
>>disdain to all of us by labeling us "associate".
>>
>>Second, you just let us know that our work and commitment to ISOC has a 
>>price which is estimated to be well below $75/year. All we do can buy us 
>>only a  "associate" membership which does not make us a trusted enough to 
>>be entitled to vote. OTOH anyone who sends your way a mere $18.825 gets a 
>>right to directly nominate his representative to ISOC BoT immediately 
>>after he signs 251 cheques for $75 each.
>>
>>Third, it is all about money for ISOC staff. Every organisational 
>>"member" gets not only the right to vote for BoT representative (the more 
>>you pay, the more voting power you buy) but as a bonus there are a 
>>"complimentary" private memberships to give a company as way to influence 
>>a choice of representatives of individual members.
>>
>>Fourth, the first direct result of new membership level will be dilution 
>>of  a chapter position in their country or area. Every prospective ISOC 
>>member will have a choice: to join chapter and pay chapter's membership 
>>fees, to join ISOC directly and pay your fee or to join both and pay two 
>>separate bills as we would be a two completely separate entities.
>>
>> > we do not expect Chapters to actively sell ISOC memberships.
>>
>>How can we promote chapter's membership without promotion of ISOC 
>>membership as well?
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>>Currently cost of our marketing efforts must be covered by harvested 
>>members fees. In future chapter will be responsible for all promotional 
>>spendings and efforts but you will collect 5 times higher fees.
>>
>> > our principal focus is growing Chapters and their membership.
>>
>>The whole idea is so inflamatory that it is clear that intention is to 
>>get rid of chapters and free members.
>>
>>>Certainly you should make your members aware that it is there and point 
>>>them to the ISOC web site for details
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>>Certainly we will make our members aware that direct ISOC membership is 
>>intended to limit chapter's position by "divide and rule" style of 
>>imperial policy.
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>>>For example, the membership system is about supporting Chapters
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>>Really? Which way it is going to be usuable for chapters?
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>>>Finally, a few people have called for ISOC to withdraw the new paying 
>>>membership level.
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>>Yes, it is the last moment to do it.
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>>>Chapters will suffer if members join ISOC instead of Chapters
>>
>>Would you dare to deny it?
>>
>>>growing and supporting Chapters and the Associate Members that go with 
>>>them is a top priority of ISOC.
>>
>>What will you offer us?
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>>>continue to do the job they are doing without being burdened by an ISOC fee.
>>
>>We will be more than happy to share our revenues with ISOC headquaters to 
>>the same extend to which ISOC proved its readiness to share its revenues 
>>with us.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Wladyslaw Majewski
>>ISOC Polska
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