[chapter-delegates] New Membership Level

[EJ Preston]

We used to do this in America a century ago...  It was called a "poll 
tax" and was used to exclude the poor and minorities from voting in the 
general elections.  This concept was found to be a violation of the 
rights we people had received from "God".

ISOC is poised to become an elitist organization, and SalsaNet is not 
terribly excited about that ONE bit.  I think we, the officers of the 
various chapters, have two things on our side: the power of UNITY.  
What shall we do?

Ed


EJ Preston
VP - SalsaNet, South Central Texas ISOC
512.658.5201
ejpreston at salsa.net
www.isoc.org

On Mar 4, 2005, at 9:10 AM, Philippe Le Roux wrote:

>
>
> A good rule for making ISOC a club of rich people from rich countrys 
> managing the whole Internet. We're far away from the Internet purpose 
> and ISOC spirit.
>
> At 18:33 2005-03-03, Richard StClair wrote:
>
>> I think this pretty much sums up what I was thinking. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2005, at 12:09, W©©adek Majewski wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>>> I want to say clearly that the new membership level is a benefit 
>>>> that ISOC is offering and it is completely separate from the 
>>>> benefits that Chapters offer.
>>>
>>> No, it is NOT separate.
>>>
>>> First, you decided to disregard all chapter members and display your 
>>> disdain to all of us by labeling us "associate".
>>>
>>> Second, you just let us know that our work and commitment to ISOC 
>>> has a price which is estimated to be well below $75/year. All we do 
>>> can buy us only a  "associate" membership which does not make us a 
>>> trusted enough to be entitled to vote. OTOH anyone who sends your 
>>> way a mere $18.825 gets a right to directly nominate his 
>>> representative to ISOC BoT immediately after he signs 251 cheques 
>>> for $75 each.
>>>
>>> Third, it is all about money for ISOC staff. Every organisational 
>>> "member" gets not only the right to vote for BoT representative (the 
>>> more you pay, the more voting power you buy) but as a bonus there 
>>> are a "complimentary" private memberships to give a company as way 
>>> to influence a choice of representatives of individual members.
>>>
>>> Fourth, the first direct result of new membership level will be 
>>> dilution of  a chapter position in their country or area. Every 
>>> prospective ISOC member will have a choice: to join chapter and pay 
>>> chapter's membership fees, to join ISOC directly and pay your fee or 
>>> to join both and pay two separate bills as we would be a two 
>>> completely separate entities.
>>>
>>> > we do not expect Chapters to actively sell ISOC memberships.
>>>
>>> How can we promote chapter's membership without promotion of ISOC 
>>> membership as well?
>>>
>>> Currently cost of our marketing efforts must be covered by harvested 
>>> members fees. In future chapter will be responsible for all 
>>> promotional spendings and efforts but you will collect 5 times 
>>> higher fees.
>>>
>>> > our principal focus is growing Chapters and their membership.
>>>
>>> The whole idea is so inflamatory that it is clear that intention is 
>>> to get rid of chapters and free members.
>>>
>>>> Certainly you should make your members aware that it is there and 
>>>> point them to the ISOC web site for details
>>>
>>> Certainly we will make our members aware that direct ISOC membership 
>>> is intended to limit chapter's position by "divide and rule" style 
>>> of imperial policy.
>>>
>>>> For example, the membership system is about supporting Chapters
>>>
>>> Really? Which way it is going to be usuable for chapters?
>>>
>>>> Finally, a few people have called for ISOC to withdraw the new 
>>>> paying membership level.
>>>
>>> Yes, it is the last moment to do it.
>>>
>>>> Chapters will suffer if members join ISOC instead of Chapters
>>>
>>> Would you dare to deny it?
>>>
>>>> growing and supporting Chapters and the Associate Members that go 
>>>> with them is a top priority of ISOC.
>>>
>>> What will you offer us?
>>>
>>>> continue to do the job they are doing without being burdened by an 
>>>> ISOC fee.
>>>
>>> We will be more than happy to share our revenues with ISOC 
>>> headquaters to the same extend to which ISOC proved its readiness to 
>>> share its revenues with us.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Wladyslaw Majewski
>>> ISOC Polska
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> --
>> Regards,
>> Richard St Clair,
>> Co-Founder & Internet Evangelist,
>> Internet Users Society Niue
>> PICISOC Chairman, APTLD Board Member
>> --------------------------------------------
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>> Niue Island, South Pacific 169 West 19 South
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