[chapter-delegates] Hosting Request - A PROPOSAL

[Gene Gaines]

Jim.

No.  I keep hearing over and over and over again.
"We're already ahead of you..."  (below)

Frankly, I am past tired hearing that from ISOC.

My wife will be arriving home from work in another
20 minutes and we will be going out to dinner.  She
had a hard day today, and I plan to take her out
for a quiet supper.

I will not have desert, and will not have coffee.
That will save the US$6.00 that can pay for hosting
for ISOC Ecuador for two months.  If I skip that
desert and coffee six times in the next year, that
will pay for a year's hosting at a first-rate hosting
company.

When I come home from supper, I will make the offer
to ISOC Ecuador to pay for their hosting for the next
year. I hope the chapter will accept, because that
will be more pleasure for me than the desert and
coffee.

PLEASE consider abandoning the Hq. effort to develop
an internal web hosting service, templates, update
facilities, etc. etc.  That can be purchased very
cheaply.  It will be reliable.  It will be open.
It can be contracted for and implemented immediately.
The last thing chapters want is a template created
by ISOC Hq.

This way of thinking that everything must be done
in the Wiehle Avenue building is a serious flaw in
ISOC Hq. thinking.

If you wish to discuss this privately, my phone
number is +1 703-433-2081.

Gene
gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com

On Thursday, March 3, 2005, 3:38:08 PM, James wrote:

> Gene,

> Great suggestion.  We're already ahead of you, to the extent we have
> talked about this for some time and it is on our list of things to do.

> Currently, ISOC is undergoing a transition of its IT infrastructure.
> Carefully, of course, so as not to disrupt any services.  The schedule is
> spread out over the next two months in fact.

> Once that's complete, we have had on our list of things to offer to
> Chapters a template web site.  Something on the order of a half-dozen or
> so 'standard' pages is what we've talked about, mostly internally but
> we've chatted with a few Chapters about it.

> We really haven't worked out all the details.  One important issue is how
> to support Chapters updating their web site, but there's plenty of
> technology available to do this so we just have to pick something that
> works for us.

> When the time comes to make this happen there will be more to say and we
> will certainly make sure that the Chapters are aware and can contribute
> to the decision.

> In the meantime, I think Carlos' need is more immediate, so he may want
> to investigate the free services suggested by others.

> Jim





> --On Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:24 PM -0500 Gene Gaines 
> <gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com> wrote:

>> A question to all.
>>
>> See inquiry from Carlos Vera Quintana, ISOC Equador (below).
>>
>> ISOC Headquarters is asking for projects that can be funded for
>> chapters.
>>
>> Would it be appropriate to request funds to pay for the web
>> hosting for a limited number of chapters?
>>
>> Example:
>>
>>   Small ISOC chapters do not need large resources,
>>   for example this should be sufficient for each account:
>>
>>     - 500 MB disk space.
>>     - 25,000 MB monthly traffic.
>>     - 100 email accounts, with webmail, spam and
>>           virus filtering,  and 10 MB disk space each.
>>     - 50 email forwarding accounts.
>>     - Hosted on Linux system.
>>     - 1 MySQL database.
>>     - PHP support.
>>
>> Can be purchased for $40/year from reliable hosting companies.
>>
>> So, total cost for 10 chapters would be only US$400/year.
>> Or, total cost for 20 chapters would be only US$800/year.
>>
>> I see this as just a small step in the right direction.
>>
>> My thought would be to make available to chapters in the
>> most economically-disadvantaged areas, to those chapters
>> most in need.
>>
>> Chapter selection for this support would be by consensus of
>> members of the chapter-delegates list, with the advice of
>> the ISOC Chapters Vice President and Membership Director.
>>
>> Just an idea.  Good or bad?
>>
>> Gene
>> gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 2, 2005, 11:35:43 PM, Carlos wrote:
>>
>> > Dear ISOC members. I'm wondering if some organization can offer some
>> > hosting facilities for our site www.isoc.org.ec  (facilities mean for
>> > free)
>>
>> > Any recomendation would be welcomed.
>>
>> > Carlos Vera Quintana
>>
>>
>> >
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