[chapter-delegates] New Membership Level

[Vansnick Rudi]

Dear Carlos,

How does your chapter survive without fees ? 
Do you have private sponsors ?

There is still the possibility of associate membership WITHOUT membershipfee, so
I do not understand why we are discussing this so long.

Regards,

Rudi Vansnick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Vera [mailto:cvera at interactive.net.ec] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:26 PM
> To: Patrick Vande Walle; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [chapter-delegates] New Membership Level
> 
> 
> Dear Patrick collecting local fees is contrary to some 
> chapter policies. We 
> at ISOC Ecuador has a policy NO MEMBERSHIP FEES.
> 
> Carlos
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Patrick Vande Walle" <patrick at isoc.lu>
> To: <chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [chapter-delegates] New Membership Level
> 
> 
> > Carlos Vera wrote:
> >
> > Dear Carlos,
> >
> >> 1. Next step is to stablish a relation between voting and 
> membership.
> >> (more members more voting or in other words more USD $$ means more 
> >> representation)
> >
> > Paying members will get one directly elected board member when the 
> > number
> > of paying members reaches 500. This is not going to happen 
> anytime soon 
> > IMHO. And even if it did, there cannot be more than 3 board members 
> > elected by this "constituency" (for lack of a better word)
> >
> >> 2. Paid membership means I get something for my money.
> >
> > We had this debate at the Board. The idea was that some 
> people might 
> > be
> > willing to give a small (by US/European standards) amount 
> to ISOC, as they 
> > would to say, the Red Cross or another NGO, without 
> expecting a direct 
> > return on their investment. Until now, they did not have 
> that opportunity.
> >
> >> 3. There are ways to be creative and make a real chapter 
> development
> >> inside ISOC using income from projects like PIR.
> >
> > This is the goal of the Chapter projects funding to be 
> announced soon.
> >
> >> There are lot of examples where such type of income is 
> used to cover
> >> administrative expenses, luxury hotels and first class 
> travel... and 
> >> finally what drop from table is used for real work.
> >
> > Carlos, I can assure you that no-one within ISOC travels 
> first class 
> > or
> > has such-like advantages.
> >
> > As for the impact of the paying membership, the 2005 budget 
> says it is
> > less that 1% and again this looks optimistic to me. 
> > http://www.isoc.org/isoc/fin/ISOC2005budget.pdf
> >
> > As for the suggestion of Olivier, I like the idea of 
> collecting fees 
> > at
> > the local level and give a percentage to ISOC, although the 
> logistics make 
> > the effiency of such a process difficult.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Patrick
> >
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