[ih] Somebody probably asked before - Trying to remember early net routing collapse

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Mon Mar 20 17:16:08 PDT 2023


can't say about fuzzballs but the IMPs had a collapse because there was no
memory check and one imp (harvard?) sent a routing packet saying it was
zero hops from all other imps so naturally....

On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:11 PM Karl Auerbach via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> I am sure this has been discussed, but I can't seem to find it...
>
> I vaguely remember a story involving some of Dave Mills' machines and a
> memory error in IMPs or some other switching device that caused all of
> the net's traffic to be forwarded through one struggling Fuzzy* or
> PDP-11/03.
>
> Could someone give me a pointer?
>
> I once did something similar - back when we were using flood-and-prune
> routing for IP multicast, I was working at a site where our inbound link
> was a T-1.  Our internal net had several Cisco routers [2500 series] all
> chatting away with DVMRP [the flood-and-prune multicast routing protocol
> of that era.]  Anyway, while I was setting up one or our internal 25xx
> routers I had not yet finished setting up the IP unicast routing.  But
> that didn't stop my partially configured router from chatting away with
> IGMP and DVMRP, it merely meant that that router could not send the
> "prune, please stop sending me traffic!" message.
>
> So that router eventually ended up at the end of every IP multicast
> "flood" that was active on the MBone but without a way of saying "stop,
> please stop!".  Our poor T-1 saturated.  I learned to not enable IP
> multicast via DVMRP until my unicast routing was stable.  (We eventually
> moved onto PIM for multicast routing.)
>
>      --karl--
>
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