[ih] IETF relevance (was Memories of Flag Day?)

[Michael Thomas]

On 8/28/23 6:59 PM, John Levine via Internet-history wrote:
> It appears that Dave Crocker via Internet-history <dcrocker at bbiw.net> said:
>> I'm sure there are examples, but I can't think of an application
>> protocol that was originated in the IETF over, say, the last 25 years,
>> that has seen widespread success.
> One could argue that DKIM originated in the IETF. It had two
> predecessors, DomainKeys and IIM. The development process more or less
> involved adding the bad ideas from IIM into DomainKeys, then taking
> them back out.

No it didn't. DKIM was resolved before it came to IETF. It happened 
around my dinning room table in San Francisco and you weren't there.

As it turns out the bad idea was positing that DNSSec would be a 
sufficient and deployed. It isn't. IIM got that right using TLS.

Mike