[ih] Memories of Flag Day?

[John Day]

This has been discussed many time before on this list. Mail was officially introduced into FTP in March 1973. However, there were earlier versions and quite quickly the direction of the NWG was to replicate on the ARPANET the facilities found in most timesharing systems, that is where TELNET, FTP, and RJE came from and mail was one. I remember Steve Crocker showing up near the end of the March FTP meeting and saying, ‘put in mail before you leave.’ ;-) or words to that effect.

As for hyperlinks, NLS was a hypertext system by design and demonstrated at NCC in 1968.

Take care,
John

> On Aug 17, 2023, at 22:40, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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> On 8/17/2023 6:58 PM, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history wrote:
>>>>> Lynch: We built it for remote login and file transfer, ok, access to remote resources that was its absolute thing. E-mail was an accident.
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>> In 1995, I'd have said of the CERN and HEP (high energy physics) networks:
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>> "We built them for email, remote login and file transfer, ok, access to remote resources. WWW was an accident." 
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> At the earliest stages of effort to build the Arpanet, perhaps email was not in the minds of the immediate workers.
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> And in the motivating paper from Licklider and Taylor:
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>   https://bbiw.net/reports/lick-taylor-1968.pdf
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> there is no concept of person-to-person 'messaging' explicitly stated.
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> What /was/ stated was people interacting.  Push that requirement and it has to lead to asynchronous, as well as synchronous communications.
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> Bhushan said that email was part of the plan for FTP.  It didn't show up in the earliest FTP work, but it showed up pretty darn quickly.
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> On 8/17/2023 7:27 PM, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history wrote:
>> Sure, and the WWW was literally an afterthought, mentioned very
>> briefly in the Epilogue. 
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> As soon as there was Anonymous FTP, a richer and more usable version of distributed document sharing was inevitable.  So while the particular winner was ad hoc and from an unexpected source, something like it was certain to happen.
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