[ih] Internet: 57 years later, what does Professor Kleinrock think of the his creation?

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Sat Oct 31 07:51:54 PDT 2026


Vint,
A slight correction to your note.

A APRA PI meeting in early 67 rejected Roberts plans for the ARPANET because their systems were too loaded as it was. But Wes Clark suggested putting minicomputers in front of the hosts as a front-end, hence the IMPs. If you look closely, the IMP is really a virtual circuit packet switch on the backend and a front-end to the host.  Host-IMP protocol is part of the front-end part that sets up connections between hosts and reassembles packets into multi-packet messages. It was the front-end function that was the source of the deadlocks we talk about.

Take care,
John

> On Oct 31, 2026, at 07:16, vinton cerf via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> The 10/29/1969 was a two node test of the Arpanet and involved connecting a
> terminal at UCLA to a host at SRI International that were connected via two
> Interface Message Processors (IMPs) which we would call packet switches
> today. There was no host level protocol for that test. The protocol that
> linked the Arpanet hosts was developed under the leadership of Steve
> Crocker and was eventually called either the host-to-host protocol or
> Network Control Protocol (or Program) in 1970 (see IETF RFC document
> series, also started by Steve Crocker; RFC 33 Feb 1970). Three of us worked
> at the Network Measurement Lab, led by Leonard Kleinrock: Steve Crocker,
> Vint Cerf and Jon Postel, among others. The Internet development started in
> the Spring of 1973 at Stanford and was initiated by Bob Kahn (then at
> DARPA) who invited Vint Cerf to work with him on the project. The
> Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) protocol was published in May 1974 in
> IEEE Transactions. By Dec 1974, a complete TCP spec was published in Dec
> 1974 (RFC 675) written by Cerf, Yogen Dalal and Carl Sunshine at Stanford.
> Three networks made up the cohort populating the early Internet: Arpanet,
> Packet Radio network and the Atlantic Packet Satellite network. The first
> two-network test of the Internet protocols occurred in Summer 1976 linking
> the Packet Radio network to the Arpanet and was conducted by SRI
> International. The first three network test was conducted Nov 22, 1977
> including Packet Radio, Packet Satellite and Arpanet. Internet went
> operational on January 1, 1983.
> 
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> On Sat, Oct 31, 2026 at 3:19 AM Frantisek Borsik via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>> "Leonard Kleinrock and a team of scientists at UCLA gave life to the
>> Internet at precisely 10:30 PM on October 29, 1969, quite literally
>> changing the world.
>> 
>> 57 years later, what does Professor Kleinrock think of the his creation?"
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>> https://x.com/lainaminute/status/2115898117229039925
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>> All the best,
>> 
>> Frank
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