[ih] Why did location/identity separation not happen? (Was: Internet without entrenched factions?)

[Greg Skinner]

On May 17, 2026, at 12:43 PM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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> Hi Noel,
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> The issues of location and identity that I first remember seeing were in John Schoch's IEN in 1978 - see https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien19.txt
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> This was a seminal document that influenced the decisions made when TCP V2 was evolving into TCP/IP V4.  I recall discussions in some meeting about how one system's "address" is another system's "name".  The whole issue of Naming, Addressing, and Routing was on the ICCB's list of "things to work on" back in the early 1980s.    I wasn't involved in the IPV6 discussions so I'm not sure what was discussed there.  It's possible that the ICCB's to-do list got lost as the people moved around.
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> /Jack Haverty
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Based on what I’ve seen on some IPng mailing lists, there were people who were aware of contributions such as Shoch’s.  For example, on big-internet, Paul Francis (formerly Tsuchiya) used IEN31 as the basis for his arguments. [1] [2] .  (IEN31 and IEN23 were action items assigned in IEN22 in response to IEN19. [3] [4])

--gregbo

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien31.txt
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/big-internet/gi1rrsf5aPZTZEA6BB_QCAAEY6w/
[3] https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien23.pdf
[4] https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien22.pdf