[ih] Internet without entrenched factions?

Karl Auerbach karl at iwl.com
Fri May 15 13:50:00 PDT 2026


I've had vacuum filled fiber on my catalog of bogus network products for 
several years.

      https://www.cavebear.com/cb_catalog/current/fastfiber/

I thought that vacuum filled fiber would remain a joke - but flash 
traders are willing to invest in many things and the more I internally 
reflect on the state of fiber optics I ought to have more quickly 
realized that filling a fiber with nothing would eventually become a 
real thing.

Maybe I can get 'em to invest in our relativistic network links from the 
Interop net of 1998... it remains rather bogus...

      https://www.cavebear.com/cb_catalog/techno/gaganet/



On 5/15/26 11:23 AM, John Levine via Internet-history wrote:
> According to John Gilmore via Internet-history <gnu at toad.com>:
>> This a funny statement, but it's obsolete, since the speed of light
>> varies based on the medium, and Moore's Law *has* improved the speed of
>> delivery of packets.  Sending packets to orbit and back (through air and
>> vacuum) is much faster than sending them through a (glass) fiber optic
>> cable covering a similar distance.
> That used to be true, but now there's hollow core fiber where the signal
> goes through air rather than glass.  I understand it also is lower loss
> than conventional glass fiber so it needs fewer repeaters.
>
> See, for example
> https://www.nokia.com/blog/hollow-core-fiber-not-just-for-low-latency/
>
> R's,
> John


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