[ih] A revolution in Internet point-of-view - Was Re: Internet analyses (Was Re: IPv8...)

[John Day]

So you can use the pair (Loopback-address, local-id). A global identifier is not required.

Clearly, a case where the solution is easier for the guy debugging than for the network as a whole. So one spends most of their time debugging these networks?

John

> On Apr 29, 2026, at 21:03, Tony Li <tony.li at tony.li> wrote:
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> Hi John,
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>> As for just plain conservative choices: TCP/IP, UDP, losing the Internet Layer, Sockets, TCP Congestion Control was a step back to CUTE+AIMD, IPv6, naming the interface in routers (apparently not understanding that when a packet is sent down a point-to-point line there is only one place for it to come out: the other end. Addresses on either end or not necessary. An identifier local to the router is required to distinguish them but not an address.) Most routers are connected by point-to-point lines. But that is okay, routers assigned an IP address to the Loopback module and route on that.
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> False.  We tried that with unnumbered interfaces.  It created numerous triage issues.  We need our tools to tell us exactly which interface is involved and those need an IP address to work with.
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> The reality is that we need addresses on BOTH the interface and the router.
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> Tony
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