[ih] "The Great Debate"

Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com
Sun Apr 26 19:44:33 PDT 2026


On 27-Apr-26 13:28, Dave Crocker via Internet-history wrote:
> 
>>     - A session layer - which is a nice way to span application level
>> relationships that span the failure and reconstruction of underlying
>> transport connections as devices move about.  This could have greatly
>> simplified IP mobility and simplified context-keeping things like web
>> cookies.
> 
> 
> Interestingly, the specification for TLS is, really, the specification
> of an extensible session layer, but with this particular use.
> 
> A long time ago, I tried to garner some interest in adding to it, to
> support using multiple, independent paths between applications, so app
> interaction would not be delayed or terminated by a single TCP
> connection outage.
> 
> That is, to have a virtual TCP connection, on top of this, that could
> map down to multiple 'normal' TCP connections.

I think QUIC is aiming to evolve that capability (which we also aimed at
with SHIM6, about half a layer below TCP).

     Brian


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