[ih] uucp, was Question re rate of growth of the Arpanet

[Yasuhiro Orange Morishita / 森下泰宏]

Hi,

> Was that mcvax, connected to seismo?

Legendary Piet Beertema has written great articles:

Piet Beertema's website
https://godfatherof.nl/ 

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Yasuhiro 'Orange' Morishita <yasuhiro at jprs.co.jp>

From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org>
Subject: Re: [ih] uucp, was Question re rate of growth of the Arpanet
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:20:13 +0200

> Was that mcvax, connected to seismo?
> 
> O.
> 
> On 23/04/2025 14:30, Jaap Akkerhuis via Internet-history wrote:
>> [Continuing UUCP nostagia, here are some highlights from EUrope]
>>
>>   John Levine via Internet-history writes:
>>
>>   > It appears that Johan Helsingius via Internet-history<julf at Julf.com>
>>   > said:
>>   > >On 21/04/2025 22:15, the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
>>   > >Internet-history wrote:
>>   > >
>>   > >> then there was UUCP... can anyone chime in what the "minimum"
>>   > >> acceptable
>>   > >> bit rate for that was?  anything less than Bell 202 at 1.2 or Racal
>>   > >> Vadic
>>   > >> at 2.4?
>>   > >
>>   > >Pretty much, yes. Leaf nodes could survive on a 1200 bps connection,
>>   > >but I don't think I ever saw anything slower.
>>   >
>>   > I think I set up a 300 bps leaf node but didn't run much traffic over
>>   > it.
>>   >
>>
>> Well, it was all we had at that time, Also, one had to toggle
>> switches by hand which was a bit clumsy so we had this little box
>> built to do it remotely. Later on we could get our hand on 1200 bps
>> and even 2400 bps (but don't tell the regulators). The dialler boxes
>> became a great succes and somehow spread over Europe.
>>
>> When the X.25 DN-1 came available foe international traffic, we
>> startad to use that as well.  It also gave birth to the f-protocol.
>> (Our uucp version was based on the olde V7 verson and some bits of
>> honeydanber) But the available bandwith wasn't enough so we ended
>> up havong a leased line over the ocean. Meanwhile a lot of traffice
>> went via Armano's uucp hub as well.  In exchance for n course on
>> Ultrix, we actually managed to get an VAX 750 from DEC.  When the
>> Telebit  modems came around, it was impossible to get the g-protocol
>> spoofing version. It forced us to blow our own e-proms to get it.
>>
>> 	jaap
>>
>> PS. I really have t mention some of the prople involved: Teus Hagen,
>> Jim McKie, Piet
>>      Beertema, Daniel Karrenberg, Peter Collinson, Rob Blokzijl. Note
>>      this list is in random order and rather incomplete.
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