[ih] A comment on the seven layer model
touch at strayalpha.com
touch at strayalpha.com
Tue Apr 22 20:28:03 PDT 2025
Yup - recursive - it's the basis of what I call the Recursive Network Architecture, which is the theory on which the way I taught networking works:
https://www.strayalpha.com/rna/#:~:text=The%20Recursive%20Network%20Architecture%20(RNA,protocol%20layers%20to%20avoid%20reimplementation.
The approach I use is called a “first principles approach to networking”, which ties together info theory, physics, and recursion…
Joe
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> On Apr 22, 2025, at 8:15 PM, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> I've always argued that the main defect in the 7-layer model is that
> it isn't recursive, especially in layers 2-5. Given that it was invented
> by computer scientists, I'm also still a bit surprised by this defect.
>
> Brian
> On 23-Apr-25 14:01, touch--- via Internet-history wrote:
>>> On Apr 22, 2025, at 1:58 PM, Steve Crocker via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jack,
>>>
>>> I liked your comment, "I gave up long ago on trying to stuff this into a
>>> 7-layer diagram and explain it.”
>> I like it as well. My class approach is that layers are all relative, e.g., IP-a over IP-b means that IP-a is a transport over IP-b, and IP-b is a link to IP-a.
>> There’s real utility in layering and in the relation of layers, but not in any absolute count.
>> Joe
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>> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
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