[ih] Fwd: OSI and alternate reality

[vinton cerf]

that's a pretty good summary, John.
v


On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 9:53 AM John Day via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Sorry forgot to hit reply-all.
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> > Begin forwarded message:
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> > From: John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [ih] OSI and alternate reality
> > Date: March 15, 2024 at 09:45:07 EDT
> > To: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> >
> > These were all crap.  X.25/X.75/X.29 were all trying to preserve the PTT
> monopoly.
> >
> > The PTTs never got (and still don’t) that this was all about dynamic
> resource allocation, not static allocation.
> >
> > X.400 was far too complex.  X.500 was trying to be the white pages and
> the yellow pages, when all that was necessary was a simple protocol that
> mapped application names to network addresses.
> >
> > These were all illustrate how the PTTs didn’t get what was going on.
> >
> > The mistake OSI made was inviting to do the work jointly with CCITT
> (ITU). However, given that there was no telecom deregulation even being
> talked about in Europe the Europeans felt they had no choice, especially
> given the interference they had already shown with EIN and EURONET.
> >
> > The Europeans proved to be their own best enemy.
> >
> > Take care,
> > John
> >
> >> On Mar 15, 2024, at 09:34, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via
> Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 15/03/2024 10:19, David Sitman via Internet-history wrote:
> >>> Would we have seen the same rapid and universal adoption of computer
> >>> networking with OSI? Could the Web have flourished? Would address
> space and
> >>> security issues be alleviated? Would "OSI on Everything" have become a
> meme?
> >>
> >> Having actually used X.3, X.21, X.25, X.400, X.500... sorry, let me
> re-phrase this... having actually struggled with the aforementioned X.
> based services and also programmed stacks according to these protocols a
> loooong time ago, my prediction of a Green Internet based on computing
> networking with OSI would be resumed as this:
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> >> Kindest regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier
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