[ih] Fwd: Some Berkeley Unix history - too many PHDs per packet

[Clem Cole]

This is really a discussion for COFF not IH list but I’ll reply since it
came up.  By the time if Sys v vendors could sell you a binary use license
- DEC, IBM, Masscomp, Sun, HP, etc.  If you had purchased a 3B2 or 3B20
from ATT it came with a binary license. But ATT only sold source licenses
and second to N cpu licenses.

Coming back to the post.  FWIW I (via Tektronix) was 3Com’s first
customer.  Somewhere in my archives is the shipping bag with the address
label and the postal marking of the 32nd of December.  Bob had some sort
requirement with his VCs that they ship before the end of the year. I got
the tape a few days later so we could start to debug our VMS TCP stack we
were writing.



Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual


On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:44 PM Barbara Denny via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

>  I should clarify buy a system V license from AT&T first.
> barbara
>     On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 05:31:33 PM PST, Greg Skinner via
> Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>  Forwarded for Barbara
>
> > On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 01:34:11 PM PST, Barbara Denny <
> b_a_denny at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hope the list doesn't get too many copies of this message as I try
> various ways.  I am having trouble again with my posts.  It is interesting
> I don't seem to have a problem with a different mailing list on Google
> groups.  I am trimming the original message too.
> >
> >
> > ******************
> >
> > Didn't you only need a license if you wanted source code?  I  remember
> having to wait quite some time for all that to happen when I was at SRI. I
> was able to figure a bug once we got the code.  We made a guess about
> header processing that wasn't right since we didn't know about the
> internals. I will admit my memory feels foggy on this.
> >
> > barbara
> >
> > On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 02:55:56 AM PST, Dave Taht via
> Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From john nagle here, a good article, and a long and enjoyable thread:
> > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39630457
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Ford Aerospace was one of the first commercial sites of BSD Unix. The
> > licensing was complicated. We had to buy Unix 32V from AT&T first.
> > That transaction got on the path for major corporate documents. AT&T
> > and Ford Motor had a cross-licensing agreement. Eventually, I got a
> > no-cost license agreement embossed with the corporate seals of both
> > the Ford Motor Company and the American Telephone and Telegraph
> > Corporation. Made a copy and taped it onto a VAX. Then I drove up to
> > Berkeley from Palo Alto and Bill Joy gave me a BSD tape.
> >
> > **********Message cut- barbara********
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