[ih] Where it All Started: Panel Discussion on the Birth of the European Internet [RIPE NCC - South East Europe 12 Meeting in Athens, Greece]

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that was quite a barrier to networking in the EU - thanks to EARN for
making the case.
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 11:42 AM Daniele Bovio via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Julf,
> In 1984, when EARN was established, it was illegal in Europe to provide
> network services amongst different institutions/corporations within
> countries and across the borders because the PTTs had the monopoly of voice
> and data transport, so nobody could legally lease circuits amongst an
> heterogeneous number of sites and offer data transport services. As a
> matter of fact the EARN management was approached by the CEPT (the European
> cooperation structure of the PTTs) threatening to shut the operations down
> exactly for that reason. The EARN Board argued that  the purpose of the
> network was to allow scientists to communicate with each other, i.e. one
> homogeneous group: the Research and Academic Community, and eventually
> after a lot of arguing the CEPT allowed EARN to continue to operate.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniele Bovio
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Internet-history
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 4:11 PM
> To: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>; internet-history at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [ih] Where it All Started: Panel Discussion on the Birth of
> the European Internet [RIPE NCC - South East Europe 12 Meeting in Athens,
> Greece]
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> In response to Julf's point --- wasn't it all academic to start with?
> In the early days, academia was leading in a few countries and
> EARN/NETNORTH/BITNET interfacing with local networks like JANET (where I
> "lived").
> The only alternative at the time was UUCP. (we're talking 1985-88) Kindest
> regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 13/06/2024 14:23, Johan Helsingius via Internet-history wrote:
> > Yes, very interesting discussion, but very biased towards the academic
> > networks (understandable given the event and the panelists).
> >
> >     Julf
> >
> > On 13/06/2024 14:16, Frantisek Borsik via Internet-history wrote:
> >> It was share by RIPE on social media yesterday:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAyxbwZzjTw
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Frank
> >>
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