[ih] How TCP and the Internet "won" outside of the US?

Eberhard W Lisse el at lisse.na
Thu Jul 25 00:00:48 PDT 2024


“Satellite Economy” is an interesting term for Neutrality :-)-O

But they have joined NATO last year.

el


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On Jul 24, 2024 at 23:09 +0200, Tom Lyon via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org>, wrote:
> Someone in Finland told me that Finland got a huge head-start with TCP/IP
> because in the 80s, as a satellite economy to the USSR, they were not
> aligned with the rest of Europe - and could skip the OSI protocol nonsense.
>
> See also https://siy.fi/history-of-the-finnish-internet/
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 1:23 PM Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> > On 7/23/24 10:16, Gergely Buday via Internet-history wrote:
> > > Russia does not like the open Internet as they did not like Radio Free
> > > Europe.
> > >
> > > - Gergely
> >
> > I've always been curious about the adoption of the TCP-based Internet as
> > it spread outside the US.
> >
> > Inside the US, the Internet, and TCP, was characterized as "an
> > Experiment". It might provide research insights, but the "real" next
> > generation system was being aggressively developed by big corporations,
> > perhaps to evolve into some kind of OSI standards-based data
> > communications infrastructure for the world - much as the telephone,
> > telegraph, postal, and other such older global communications
> > infrastructures had evolved.
> >
> > The perception of the Internet as just "an experiment" made it of little
> > relevance to the competitors, both corporations and standards bodies,
> > that were battling to define the actual next generation. Thus, as just
> > an Experiment, the Internet got little attention from corporate or
> > political interests. It grew on its own and likely surprised a lot of
> > people when it exploded and dominated, especially through the 1990s
> > after the Web appeared and provided content and services interesting to
> > the general public.
> >
> > I've always assumed that the Internet grew outside the US much as it had
> > grown inside. But is that true?
> >
> > So my question is --- How was the Internet received by the political and
> > commercial interests in other countries? Was it viewed as a threat, or
> > ignored as irrelevant? In the US, IIRC a lot of big companies were
> > blindsided by the sudden (to them) emergence of the Internet and TCP.
> >
> > But elsewhere? For a country that "does not like the open Internet",
> > when did they realize that, and what did they do about it?
> >
> > Any recollections, pointers to literature, etc.?
> >
> > Jack Haverty
> >
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