[ih] Politics behind the Internet

Tony Patti crypto at glassblower.info
Sun Jul 21 18:12:56 PDT 2024


I would suggest: not just security bypassed, PRIVACY bypassed also.  

See page 6 of the PDF at https://www.congress.gov/102/statute/STATUTE-105/STATUTE-105-Pg1594.pdf which has §101(g)(6) containing "appropriate policies to ensure the security of resources available on the Network and to protect the privacy of users of networks."

That was written in 1991, which was also the year that Phil Zimmermann developed PGP.
1991 was before the Clipper Chip (in 1993) which started the first Crypto War.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/history_of_the_.html

Tony Patti
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From: Internet-history <internet-history-bounces at elists.isoc.org> On Behalf Of Bob Purvy via Internet-history
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To: Leonard Kleinrock <lk at cs.ucla.edu>
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Subject: Re: [ih] Politics behind the Internet

digging a little deeper:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/senate-bill/272

Sets forth Network requirements, including: (1) fostering and maintaining competition and private sector investment in high-speed data networking within the telecommunications industry; (2) promoting the development of commercial data communications and telecommunications standards; (3) providing security, including protecting intellectual property rights; (4) developing accounting mechanisms allowing users to be charged for the use of copyrighted materials; and (5) purchasing standard commercial transmission and network services from vendors whenever feasible.

(3) and (4) seem to have been bypassed back then.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 2:16 PM Leonard Kleinrock via Internet-history < internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Good point. Al Gore Jr. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore> 
> promoted all things Internet for many years while in congress 
> (1977-1993) and during that time, as noted, he introduced and 
> championed the High Performance Computing Act of 1991 < 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_Act_of_1991>
> after hearing a presentation by yours truly in 1988 of the CSTB report 
> “Toward a National Research Network”  < 
> https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/10334/chapter/1> ; if you look 
> at the list of committee members of this1988 report, you will find a 
> number of the same folks who are on this mailing list!
> Len
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 21, 2024, at 1:46 PM, Miles Fidelman via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> > One thing to remember:  Sen. Al Gore SENIOR was a key proponent of 
> > the
> Interstate Highway System.  Sen. Gore Jr., followed in his footsteps 
> in selling an "Information Superhighway" to the nation.
> >
> > Also... Brian's book is great.  (And not just because I wrote one of 
> > the
> chapters. :-)
> >
> > Miles
> >
> > Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history wrote:
> >> There was a lot of overlap with the political interest in high
> performance
> >> computing. In particular, the US High-Performance Computing Act of 
> >> 1991 (a.k.a. The Gore Bill) has a whole section on "National 
> >> Research and Education Network".
> >>
> >> A good reference is "Building Information Infrastructure", Brian 
> >> Kahin
> (editor),
> >> ISBN 0-390-03083X-X, 1992.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>    Brian Carpenter
> >>
> >> On 22-Jul-24 06:48, Bob Purvy via Internet-history wrote:
> >>> I recall lots of talk about "the information superhighway," but it
> usually
> >>> wasn't very specific.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:33 AM Vint Cerf via Internet-history < 
> >>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> around 1996, Congress started to wake up to Internet - it had
> inklings as
> >>>> early as 1992 as domain names were offered for a price.
> >>>> Then Senator Gore understood Internet as early as 1986 and 
> >>>> encourage
> its
> >>>> development. By 1996 the revision of the Telecom Act paid some
> attention to
> >>>> Internet because the WWW was booming. Limited or no regulation 
> >>>> was the general posture of the day at that time.
> >>>>
> >>>> v
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 7:47 AM Gergely Buday via 
> >>>> Internet-history < internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> when the American Congress realised the importance of the Internet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Back in the eighties we were listening the Radio Free Europe on
> shortwave
> >>>>> radios. Congress supported that financially. Did it have similar
> thoughts
> >>>>> concerning the Internet, that it would spread freedom 
> >>>>> politically and economically?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yours
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Gergely
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