[ih] Really old list archives

Noel Chiappa jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Tue Jan 23 10:01:27 PST 2024


{Trying to catch up...}

    > From: Greg Skinner

    > There is a file in the ietf-ftp directory called 1990-all that contains
    > ietf list messages from 1990.

That is better than nothing (considering that the Web-accessible archive only
starts in 1992), but it's still leaves a _enormous_ hole: the 1st IETF (21
attendees; held jointly held with the first InArc meeting, IIRC) was in
January, 1986 - so there's over 4 years of IETF list emails still not
available.

I would guess that there's not one place that they'd all be available? (If
CNRI had a log file of list traffic, would they still have it accessible -
and if they had backups, do they still exist?)

We should get some historian started on trying to track them all down - who
would be a likely target to take that monumental search on? The CHM?


And I'd still like to find the name of the list that was used before the ietf
list existed (the name is a start; finding any of its archives will be an
even bigger search). Would it have been at DARPA? I'd guess not - but where
else? ISI, SRI or BBN?

Pretty amazing that so much of the early history has been lost. At least Jon
did all the minutes, available as IENs.

	Noel



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