[ih] Why the Soviet Internet Failed

[vinton cerf]

thanks Dmitry! I remember being introduced to the BESM and Elbrus lines
when I was at DARPA....

v


On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:58 AM Dmitry Burkov via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> It was Elbrus B - newest version of BESM 6 (full compatible)
>
> Dmitry
>
> On 9/10/23 3:10 PM, Vint Cerf via Internet-history wrote:
> > I wonder whether one of the big mainframes was the BESM 6? Or maybe one
> of
> > the Elbrus series?
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_(computer)
> >
> > v
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 7:41 AM Johan Helsingius via Internet-history <
> > internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I still remember the first (and last) Soviet UNIX conference in 1990
> >> or 1991. Bill Joy from Sun was there, and Sun was donating a big batch
> >> of obsolete Sun 3 machines.
> >>
> >> In one session, a bunch of Soviet/Russian academics were debating how
> >> to port UNIX to some big Russian mainframe computer, and Bill Joy
> >> stepped up to the mic and commented "you do realize that any of those
> >> Sun 3:s will run circles around that mainframe".
> >>
> >> https://www.osti.gov/biblio/458760
> >>
> >>          Julf
> >>
> >> On 10/09/2023 11:26, Frantisek Borsik via Internet-history wrote:
> >>> I have visited Akademgorodok, so called “Soviet Silicon Valley”, a few
> >>> years ago.
> >>>
> >>> It was one of the centers of technology/Internet development in the
> >> Soviet
> >>> Union.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200625-the-ussrs-secret-siberian-democracy
> >>> https://www.britannica.com/place/Akademgorodok
> >>>
> >>> https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1956-2/akademgorodok/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.ewdn.com/category/regions-and-cities/akademgorodok-novosibirsk/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> >>>
> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
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> >>> frantisek.borsik at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 at 4:32 AM, Dave Taht via Internet-history <
> >>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Today I stumbled across a channel that talks about failed computer
> >> research
> >>>> results worldwide, from the 1950s through the 70s,  and this one shed
> >> light
> >>>> on why the USSR computing environment developed how it did.
> >>>> It intersects with the arpanet in 1969 about 2/3s of the way through:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLOD5f-q0as
> >>>>
> >>>> ... but doesn't make it all the way to the Kremvax.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Oct 30:
> >>>> https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
> >>>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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