[ih] Why the Soviet Internet Failed

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Sun Sep 10 05:10:15 PDT 2023


I wonder whether one of the big mainframes was the BESM 6? Or maybe one of
the Elbrus series?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_(computer)

v


On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 7:41 AM Johan Helsingius via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> I still remember the first (and last) Soviet UNIX conference in 1990
> or 1991. Bill Joy from Sun was there, and Sun was donating a big batch
> of obsolete Sun 3 machines.
>
> In one session, a bunch of Soviet/Russian academics were debating how
> to port UNIX to some big Russian mainframe computer, and Bill Joy
> stepped up to the mic and commented "you do realize that any of those
> Sun 3:s will run circles around that mainframe".
>
> https://www.osti.gov/biblio/458760
>
>         Julf
>
> On 10/09/2023 11:26, Frantisek Borsik via Internet-history wrote:
> > I have visited Akademgorodok, so called “Soviet Silicon Valley”, a few
> > years ago.
> >
> > It was one of the centers of technology/Internet development in the
> Soviet
> > Union.
> >
> >
> https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200625-the-ussrs-secret-siberian-democracy
> >
> > https://www.britannica.com/place/Akademgorodok
> >
> > https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1956-2/akademgorodok/
> >
> >
> https://www.ewdn.com/category/regions-and-cities/akademgorodok-novosibirsk/
> >
> >
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Frank
> > Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
> >
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
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> > frantisek.borsik at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 at 4:32 AM, Dave Taht via Internet-history <
> > internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Today I stumbled across a channel that talks about failed computer
> research
> >> results worldwide, from the 1950s through the 70s,  and this one shed
> light
> >> on why the USSR computing environment developed how it did.
> >> It intersects with the arpanet in 1969 about 2/3s of the way through:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLOD5f-q0as
> >>
> >> ... but doesn't make it all the way to the Kremvax.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Oct 30:
> >> https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
> >> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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