[ih] Running long-term archives of this list?

[touch at strayalpha.com]

That already happens because our archives are open and linked off the public ISOC pages.

Joe

—
Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
www.strayalpha.com

> On Feb 14, 2023, at 7:36 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
> 
> The Internet Archive is not the first choice for some reason?
> 
>                                -Bill
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2023, at 2:33 AM, touch--- via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> The issue has typically been the difference between “here, archive this” and a living list. The latter has been very difficult to get anyone to consider. 
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> —
>> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
>> www.strayalpha.com
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2023, at 1:52 PM, vinton cerf <vgcerf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Carnegie-Mellon has an archive - check with Raj Reddy?
>>> 
>>> v
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:03 PM touch--- via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve looked into this before. The obvious choice would be the Computer History Museum, but they didn’t know what I was asking for the last time I tried them.
>>>> 
>>>> Very few places actually run true museum-quality backups or storage of ANYTHING (libraries are the exception). Even university archives don’t - they don’t separate acid-free from not, etc. And nobody moves data from medium to medium as it evolves, i.e., so we can read things in the future without needing a non-existent 9-track tape drive.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone finds a solution that’d work for free, please do keep me posted. Until then, I figure we rely on the kindness of places like the Wayback Machine.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe (list admin)
>>>> 
>>>> —
>>>> Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist
>>>> www.strayalpha.com <http://www.strayalpha.com/>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2023, at 8:27 AM, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reflecting, once again, on the  considerable depth and breadth of historical technical knowledge that is regularly demonstrated on this list, I'm wondering about how robustly is is archives and how easily the various archives can be accessed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes it's hosted by isoc, but I'm asking about long-term (museum-quality) data archival.  (We tend to think of back and archive as the same, but they aren't.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also note I cited 'running' which means that even this message should hit those long-term archives pretty quickly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> d/
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dave Crocker
>>>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>>>> bbiw.net <http://bbiw.net/>
>>>>> mast:@dcrocker at mastodon.social
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Internet-history mailing list
>>>>> Internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:Internet-history at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Internet-history mailing list
>>>> Internet-history at elists.isoc.org <mailto:Internet-history at elists.isoc.org>
>>>> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
>> 
>> -- 
>> Internet-history mailing list
>> Internet-history at elists.isoc.org
>> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history
>