[ih] Running long-term archives of this list?

Steffen Nurpmeso steffen at sdaoden.eu
Mon Feb 13 12:58:47 PST 2023


dcrocker at bbiw.net wrote in
 <46eaa3fc-3d54-7618-6833-0829ee0357a3 at dcrocker.net>:
 |Reflecting, once again, on the  considerable depth and breadth of 
 |historical technical knowledge that is regularly demonstrated on this 
 |list, I'm wondering about how robustly is is archives and how easily the 
 |various archives can be accessed.
 |
 |Yes it's hosted by isoc, but I'm asking about long-term (museum-quality) 
 |data archival.  (We tend to think of back and archive as the same, but 
 |they aren't.)
 |
 |Also note I cited 'running' which means that even this message should 
 |hit those long-term archives pretty quickly.

It is not "museum-quality", but i would strongly suggest
a "backup" on one of the public list archives.  

There is marc.info that is popular in open source world, but
i personally really admire mail-archive.com.  They are prowd of
their uptime (100% last year, 99.80% over operation lifetime, 24
years, this year 25th anniversary; statistics go back to 2005).
Right now they manage 174911436 archived postings on 2568 active
mailing lists, which are quite impressive numbers.

The nice thing is also that they offer good search
capabilities[1], which the isoc thing does not at all!

Jeff Breidenbach seems to be a sympathic and helpful guy, who even
gave back donations as long as he was running it as a business.
They offer importing existing archives[2].  I did so, he was super
responsive.  No problem.  One of the guys who keep a real thing
running silently (as via xkcd[3]).

  [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#search
  [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#import
  [3] https://xkcd.com/2347/

Museum quality?  I hope the isoc people create real MBOX archives,
and do not solely rely on that pipermail HTML mutilation.  That
would really be a pity!  If so, then it would be tremendous if
that single file archive would be made available somewhere!!

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)



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