[ih] Installed base momentum (was Re: Design choices in SMTP)

[John Day]

So Berkeley’s position was that they were to port the BBN implementation bugs and all?

And BBN is to blame for sockets?  What a lost opportunity.

The first Unix on the Net in 1975 didn’t do that.  It used file_io.


> On Feb 13, 2023, at 15:28, Craig Partridge via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> HI Scott:
> 
> Small nit.
> 
> DARPA funded Berkeley to port the BBN Unix to BSD -- and Bill Joy chose to
> reimplement and develop sockets.  Much behind the scenes fighting ensued (I
> was hired into that fight in 1983 when BBN concluded it needed to train
> someone to understand the BSD implementation).  Led to various odd
> conversations years later -- I remember Van Jacobson justifying a TCP bug
> in the BSD implementation by saying it had been in the BBN implementation
> that Bill used as a reference -- c. 1989, long after BBN BSD TCP was gone.
> 
> Craig
> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM Scott Bradner via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>> for what its worth - here is my take on some of the reasons that the
>> Internet (and specifically
>> TCP/IP) took over the world
>> 
>> Forks: Decisions that got us the Internet we have
>> https://www.sobco.com/presentations/2020-06-25-forks.pdf
>> 
>> Scott
>> (I, along with Scott Shackelford, have a book on the subject that should
>> be published at some
>> point - the text is done & now in publisher wait)
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