[ih] The linux router project and wifi routers

[Guy Almes]

Dave,
   The word I heard went into some detail on the discounts, but I recall 
wondering why no mention was made of equity.  I hope your memory is 
correct and that Stanford did get some equity.
   So, in itself, the "Stanford thought about suing them but didn't" 
story is not very interesting.
   The more interesting thing would be why they were upset at cisco. 
Particularly given Tom's account stating that cisco had received a 
license during 1986.

   By the way, I still recall my initial visit to cisco in March 1987. 
At the time, all of cisco was in a suite of offices and lab space on the 
second floor of a nondescript building in Menlo Park.  Len Bosack met me 
and stressed (a) the advanced nature of their routers vis a vis the 
competition and (b) his ambition for cisco.  Even though the office 
suite was loosely furnished, his Board Room included a map of the world.

   We ended up placing a huge (seven routers) order with cisco and I 
never regretted it.  It was neat being able to call cisco to report a 
bug, getting a sngle-digit-employee-number person to answer the call and 
have a new version of the software without the bug by close of business 
that day.  Needless to say, that didn't last for more than a year or so.

   But I also recall friends at Stanford being very critical of the 
cisco-Stanford relationship during this period, so it's definitely 
Internet history of interest.

   	-- Guy

On 11/3/22 9:05 AM, Dave Crocker via Internet-history wrote:
> On 11/3/2022 5:52 AM, Guy Almes via Internet-history wrote:
>>   During spring 1987, however, when I was shopping for routers for an 
>> NSFnet regional network, I was made aware of quite a bit of 
>> uncertainty about whether Stanford was going to sue cisco over some 
>> Intellectual Property issues.  Evidently there was a settlement that 
>> gave Stanford a discount on buying cisco routers. 
> 
> Adding to the rumors...
> 
> At the time, I heard all of the above, with the closure being that the
> settlement was Stanford's getting some cisco shares.
> 
> d/
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