[ih] GOSIP & compliance

[Bob Purvy]

Thanks, Vint.

This illustrates why I'm not writing a *history* of internetworking! It's
already been written.

Now, what your average network admin or system designer thought of all
this, and did when he/she had to choose: that part isn't done.

A friend of mine recalls:


*Very early days, and I get into an elevator.  Inside is a guy dressed like
a pimp:  open shirt, chains, sleazy looking.  We start talking and I soon
learn he’s actually a techie and seems pretty smart.  And he’s starting a
firm!  He says it’s called “girls.com <http://girls.com/>”.  *
*I ask him what it does.  And he said it will deliver porn to the web.*
*That was a genuinely new idea for me.  And I recalled thinking:  naked
women on the internet?  Would that work?  Was there a market for such a
thing?  *



On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 5:34 PM Vint Cerf via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1169.html
>
> crafted to allow TCP/IP to be used for an indefinite future while OSI
> implementations matured...
>
> Pelkey:
>
> https://historyofcomputercommunications.info/section/14.5/the-department-of-defense-osi-and-tcp-ip/
>
> Pelkey:
>
> https://historyofcomputercommunications.info/section/14.8/the-nbs-in-action-osinet,-cos,-and-gosip/
>
> If I am remembering the history correctly, I wrote a request to NIST in
> 1992 as president of the Internet Society asking that a blue ribbon panel
> be assembled to again evaluate OSI vs TCP/IP. This would effectively
> revisit the earlier NRC panel that concluded that TCP and TP4 were
> essentially equivalent but that the OSI protocol ought to be the final
> standard destination because of its support in ISO. The new panel took a
> year to review the question and concluded that TCP and TP4 were essentially
> similar in functionality but that the widely available TCP/IP protocols
> should be allowed in lieu of OSI. At least, that is what I believe
> happened. I have not found any correspondence to confirm this and maybe I
> am misremembering but it seems to me that by 1993 (on the cusp of MOSAIC
> and after the demonstration of HTTP running over TCP/IP in 1991), the OSI
> mandate basically faded out.
>
> v
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 6:01 PM Tony Li via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 18, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Michael Grant via Internet-history <
> > internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > And there wasn’t a single router that routed CLNP.  Did one ever exist?
> >
> >
> > Yes.  Brand C had a CLNP stack, including an IS-IS implementation an a
> > CLNP version of their in-house proprietary routing protocol.  They did
> not
> > have an implementation of IDRP, so it wasn’t a full stack, but it was
> > deployable.
> >
> > Tony
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