[ih] QUIC story

[Toerless Eckert]

The use-case that drove QUIC certainly reaches back longer than
the QUIC WG (2016) in the IETF. I remember sitting at some IETF and
getting the explanation (from some google/amazon/mozilla attendees if
i remember correctly) that attention span of customers on
a web page for advertisements is the currency and that therefore
the ideal solution is one with 1 RTT to retrieve securely
the add data from the server to display it. Maybe 2012..2014 ?

Of course, the QUIC work has produced a lot of useful outcomes 
beyond improving on that one trigger use-case.

That need for low-latency/RTT of course threw a big wrench
into the well-meaning modularity and layering principles, where the
long-perceived wisdom was that security, such as via TLS or IPsec is
best decoupled from transport to be reuseable/modular. And that
QUIC experience may serve as a reminder that other real-world
requirements may throw wrenches into other well-meaning modularily
and layering principles.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 06:27:09PM +0000, Barbara Denny via Internet-history wrote:
> Hi,
> I have been wondering for quite sometime how new people to the field learn about how to incorporate their ideas.  Is there some active outreach to encourage corporations to engage in the IETF? How do their employees, or even students, learn about such things? Etc.... I predate the IETF so my experience is very different than people today.
> This is tied into a story about QUIC.  For many years I attended talks hosted by the Bay Area ACM.  The topics were always a mix of things but almost never anything to do with networking.  I was pleasantly surprised when someone started to present information on a transport protocol called QUIC.   Someone from Google gave the presentation. Unfortunately I don't remember the person's name.  At the end of the presentation,  I asked had they approached the IETF regarding what they were doing (I think they had started, or about to start, some real world testing).  Their response made me feel like they hadn't done anything in this regard and left me wondering whether they were even familiar with the IETF.  I suggested they consider starting a dialogue with the transport area.
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