[ih] QUIC story

[Andrew G. Malis]

Barbara,

Google has been at the IETF for quite some time (since at least July 2010),
so it's possible that the person you spoke to just wasn't personally aware.
Do you remember when you were at that presentation? In the IETF, the QUIC
work started as a BOF in July 2016 and first met as a WG that November.
They published RFC 9000, the QUIC transport protocol spec, about a year
ago, and very recently published RFC 9114, the HTTP/3 spec. They have a lot
else going on as well, see https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/quic/documents/ .

BTW, Google may have been coming even earlier to the IETF, but for some
reason the IETF's attendee records prior to July 2010 are offline. I'm
going to bring that to their attention.

More widely to your question about how new people come aboard, the IETF is
VERY well known in the networking/telecom industry, since any
equipment vendors that want to implement anything in the space have to
conform to the RFCs. So vendors certainly are proactive about sending
people if they have anything they want to get standardized, or just to
understand what's going on. Network operators not so much; some come, but
many tend to proxy through their vendors to save money. But they're
certainly aware of the work, since they have to write RFPs that include the
RFCs they want their equipment to implement.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 2:28 PM Barbara Denny via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have been wondering for quite sometime how new people to the field learn
> about how to incorporate their ideas.  Is there some active outreach to
> encourage corporations to engage in the IETF? How do their employees, or
> even students, learn about such things? Etc.... I predate the IETF so my
> experience is very different than people today.
> This is tied into a story about QUIC.  For many years I attended talks
> hosted by the Bay Area ACM.  The topics were always a mix of things but
> almost never anything to do with networking.  I was pleasantly surprised
> when someone started to present information on a transport protocol called
> QUIC.   Someone from Google gave the presentation. Unfortunately I don't
> remember the person's name.  At the end of the presentation,  I asked had
> they approached the IETF regarding what they were doing (I think they had
> started, or about to start, some real world testing).  Their response made
> me feel like they hadn't done anything in this regard and left me wondering
> whether they were even familiar with the IETF.  I suggested they consider
> starting a dialogue with the transport area.
> barbara
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