[ih] "The Internet runs on Proposed Standards"

[Jack Haverty]

Thanks, Carsten.  I agree there are exceptions.  Probably many of 
them.   I was just trying to point out a historical ongoing trend.

I just looked a bit at HTTP/3.  Read the Wikipedia entry which implies 
it's at a very early stage of deployment.  Saw a reference "A first look 
at HTTP/3 adoption and performance"  which I thought might give some 
indication of how the deployment is going,who's driving it, what 
improvements I might experience, how I can tell if my network stuff is 
using it, etc.

The abstract is interesting.  Sadly, the paper itself is paywalled.   
Just like OSI.

Sigh,
Jack

On 12/3/22 12:48, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 2022-12-03, at 21:37, Jack Haverty via Internet-history<internet-history at elists.isoc.org>  wrote:
>> The focus of IAB/IESG/IETF/IRTF/etc. in 2022 seems to be limited to documentation.
> Shiny counterexamples include HTTP/2, and QUIC+HTTP/3.
> These had multiple (often open-source, and often production quality) implementation efforts in parallel plus regular meetings where interoperability was checked and improvements to the documents (and their technical content) were made or kicked off.
> There also was accompanying research that went into the standards.
>
> These are the apex of how the open source and open standard development can work together, but there are lots of other effort that did something similar, on a smaller scale.
> Ones that come to my mind: The development of CoAP was also supported by multiple open-source implementation activities and interoperability events (as was ROHC a decade earlier, except that open source implementations weren’t as common in the 3G environment this was being developed for).
>
> A different model was used for DTN (used in space these days), which started as a research group that came up with its own experimental protocols tested in lots of implementations, and which then spun off an IETF WG that did the 2.0 (actually, version 7) protocol.
>
> So it’s not all gloomy about running code, but there needs to be an effort to make it happen, and not all ecosystems have that.
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>