[ih] Museum-quality archive for this list?

[John Day]

Not really. You wouldn’t believe the conditions I have found paper!  The stacks of the Vatican Library are not temperature controlled, in fact no controls at all. That is also true of the old Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris and the British Library. Yet the stuff is there and in use.

Heck, I was shown 2 400 year old maps hanging in a junk room under the Vatican Library no protection at all.

We have paper dating back millennia.

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 14:44, Jorge Amodio via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> Preserving paper for 500+ years will require an environmentally controlled
> room, and for the amount of documents associated, a very large room !
> 
> -J
> 
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:19 AM wfms--- via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I had quite an interesting discussion while sorting through some materials
>> (mostly digital) with a profesional (non-techie) archivist.
>> 
>> After quite discussion over what MTBF, digital storage methods,
>> longevities of various media, etc. it got to the point where we both
>> looked around...lots of boxes full of pulp - some of it going back 2-3
>> centuries, still accessible.
>> 
>> We found a printer.
>> 
>> To get fancier, could have made a preservation copy as well as a
>> consultation copy.  Even fancier, sent the 8.5" x 14" off for binding.
>> 
>> That's not to say paper-bound i or isn't a step backwards, and nothing
>> beats feeding digital data into a search engine indexer - but at least
>> some semblance of indexing into the various volumes also not paper-bound
>> may help.  It all depends.
>> 
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, vinton cerf via Internet-history wrote:
>> 
>>> You are singing my song
>>> V
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 08:03 John Day via Internet-history <
>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>>>> We have no means of archival store for digital material. Archival has to
>>>> last 500 years or more. (I am often using materials that old.) Not only
>> are
>>>> we not sure the storage media last that long, but having something that
>>>> reads it is the real problem.)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 21:53, Bill Woodcock via Internet-history <
>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 20:37, Dave Crocker via Internet-history <
>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> I got a private note asking about a paid archive at archive.org.  I
>>>> think that a reasonable question and possibly worth doing on it own.
>>>> Whether that qualifies as 'museum quality' isn't something I can assess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, it’s what we’ve got for “archival quality” on the Internet right
>>>> now, and if it’s not good enough, that means Brewster needs more
>> support.
>>>>> 
>>>>>                               -Bill
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