[ih] More terminology (Was: multi-protocol routers, bridges)

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Thu Dec 2 16:53:52 PST 2021


The phone system has always separated control and ‘data’ in separate networks. The drawing of planes originates with ISDN

I have looking for a good definition for years.

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 18:07, Greg Skinner via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>> On Nov 27, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo at tzi.org> wrote:
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>> On 28. Nov 2021, at 00:32, Noel Chiappa via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>>> We distinguished between two very different activities which 'routers'
>>> performed; the handling of user traffic, which we called 'forwarding', and the
>>> computation of routing data/tables (by routing protocols/algorithms), which
>>> was often (but not always, IIRC) called 'routing'. (Slightly confusing, I
>>> know! :-)
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>> Indeed, but both meanings of ?routing? prevail.
>> I?ll call them routing1 and routing2, where routing1 is defined as the combination of routing2 and fowarding.
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>> We?ll use routing1 when describing the overall outcome, as in ?xyz does not route that traffic?, or in ?router?.
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>> We?ll use routing2 together with forwarding when it comes to how to implement routing1; RIB and FIB are clear examples of distinct concepts relating to routing2 and forwarding.  Routing protocols rarely provide forwarding and therefore are routing2.
>> (A router that uses strict source routing or an SDN setup does not do routing2 at all?)
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>> The terms control plane and data plane are another attempt to slice this cake; I must admit I don?t know when those gained popularity.
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>> Gr??e, Carsten
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> I was curious about the origins of control and data plane myself, so I looked into it a bit.  Their use dates back to at least the early 1990s.  For example, see the 1991 CCITT (ITU) publication B-ISDN Protocol Reference Model and its Application, Recommendation I.321 <http://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lang=e&id=T-REC-I.321-199104-I!!PDF-E&type=items>.  As an example of when it entered the IETF vernacular, see a message from 1994 that was posted to the ATM list <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/atm/MELrqzESZnZZFCZsjpb_ZNRcjPY/> in response to a question about RFC 1577.
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> —gregbo
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