[ih] Arpanet physical connectors
John Day
jeanjour at comcast.net
Thu Jul 23 07:17:54 PDT 2020
About the same time, we had a VDH at Illinois to connect Purdue.
John
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:08, Vint Cerf via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> 1973 most likely; certainly no later than 1974.
> v
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:06 AM Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:
>
>> Vint,
>>
>> What year was that connection established?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:04 AM Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> at Stanford my PDP-11/20 was connected by VDH to an IMP in another
>>> building on the campus.
>>>
>>> v
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:56 AM Steve Crocker via Internet-history <
>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Much of this has been covered already in responses to your note, but we
>>>> can
>>>> add a little more. The connectors were definitely NOT RS-232. The BBN
>>>> team designed the connector. I believe they wanted it to be as simple as
>>>> possible. It was bit serial, operating at 100 kilobits per second. The
>>>> lines connecting the IMPs operated at 50 kilobits per second, so 100 kb/s
>>>> was a reasonable fit. Making it run much faster wouldn't have made a
>>>> noticeable difference in the overall performance. The interface was
>>>> designed to operate up to 50 feet from the host. A different interface
>>>> was
>>>> designed later to operate up to, I think, 1000 feet. These were referred
>>>> to as the Local Host (LH) and Distant Host (DH) interface. A third
>>>> version was designed yet later to operate over unlimited distance. It
>>>> was
>>>> called the Very Distant Host (CDH) interface.
>>>>
>>>> I believe Severo Ornstein and Ben Barker were the key hardware people at
>>>> BBN. Mike Wingfield at UCLA built the first host interface for our Sigma
>>>> 7. All are copied on this message. BBN Report 1822 has the details, as
>>>> reported in other messages.
>>>>
>>>> As noted, each site had to figure out how to connect the IMP into its
>>>> host. This required a separate design and implementation at each of the
>>>> initial sites, and thus it was indeed important to have competent EE
>>>> people
>>>> involved. After a while, ACC and DEC and perhaps others started to make
>>>> interfaces available for various hosts.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:02 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer via Internet-history
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>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>>>>> https://twitter.com/nielstenoever/status/1286254151874293760
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Internet History nerds, what did the connectors and cables of the
>>>>> ARPAnet look like?
>>>>>
>>>>> Were these serial cables? Seems likely because the RS-232 standard
>>>> dates
>>>>> back to 1960.
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