[ih] Internet-history Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17

John Shoch j at shoch.com
Thu Jul 9 18:47:40 PDT 2020

Vint C. and Dave C.,
Thanks for your nice mention of our networking work at PARC.

Jack H., et al.,
In the early internetworking days there was a reasonable amount of
interaction between PARC and Stanford:
--At various times, both Bob M. and I sat in on Vint's classes or meetings
at Stanford.
--I spent the summer of 1976 (the bicentennial) working in Washington DC,
and got to visit Vint C. and Bob K. at ARPA, in Va.
--PARC had a nominal ARPA contract, which allowed us to have an IMP.  The
ARPA connections led to us participating in the TCP meetings -- Vint was
very gracious and welcoming.
--Some of it is documented in various TCP and Internet Experiment Notes
(IENs) -- meetings we attended, use of the PRNET, etc., etc.
--It is correct that we had some constraints on what we could say about the
specific PUP design and implementation.  But we were able to take part in
discussions about broader internetworking issues.
--For example, in our contribution of IEN 20 on internetwork fragmentation,
we wrote about alternate strategies, and then about picking one: "...our
current attitude is based on instinct, some experience....."  We sure hoped
everyone would get the hint.....
--Ron Crane and Yogen Dalal, who had worked with Vint at Stanford, later
came to Xerox (actually SDD, not PARC).

Vint, those were good times.

John Shoch

PS:  It's almost dinner time here, and the discussion of Louis Kao's pot
stickers is really bringing back memories.
--After Hsi Nan, in Town and Country, Louis (Louie) ran a restaurant in
Menlo Park, one on Univ. Ave. in Palo Alto, a Foster's Freeze on El Camino,
and later a restaurant in San Mateo.  I followed him to all of these, if
only for the pot stickers (and kung pao chicken).
--Some of you may recall Louis and Sandra's son, who was often in the
restaurant.  I'm told he has opened restaurants in the E. Bay, but I have
not yet been able to visit.....pork dumplings are on the menu.

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