[ih] Internet-history Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1

[Christian]

public enum was too public for telephony carriers. They like to disguise 
their routing partners. They want to control "their" numbers. Porting 
numbers requires dips that get remunerated and so this was another 
incentive to keep control of porting directly.

privacy concerns for "users" was the least of it really. Although it was 
a handy stick.

But they like enum. Itis an excellent mapping service. Carriers use it 
tightly coupled to their switches and gateway interconnects between SS7 
and IP worlds - under their control. This is sometimes referred to as 
infrastructure or iENUM or even carrier ENUM. There are some semantic 
distinctions within those terms.

I setup several such gateways between 2005 and 2012.


On 06/07/2020 20:08, Scott O. Bradner via Internet-history wrote:
> enum is well used inside telephone companies to do number mapping (or so I'm told)
> but the public enum died because of privacy concerns
>
> Scott
>
>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Vint Cerf via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>> ENUM was supposed to help with that mapping but...
>> v
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 2:59 PM Toerless Eckert via Internet-history <
>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 07:56:56AM -1000, the keyboard of geoff goodfellow
>>> via Internet-history wrote:
>>>> and let's not forget that in 1967 there was
>>>> The Science of Microelectronics
>>>> in *The President's Analyst, viz.: *
>>>> "the Cerebrum Communicator or the CC for short"
>>>> (for which there is an awesome demo clip) of at:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuwF3dRJiS8
>>>>
>>>> for anyone who has not seen this seminal film, it's a MUST SEE! :D
>>> TPC.INT
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phone_Company
>>>
>>> Interesting to see how E164 is still alive and kicking, primarily now
>>> (IMHO) for
>>> SMS authentication and not telephony anymore, but we still do not have good
>>> mapping between E164 and Internet name spaces. I guess its part of the
>>> great
>>> divide (ISOC vs. Governments).
>>>
>>> Toerless
>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:07 AM Don Hopkins via Internet-history <
>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 17:25, Miles Fidelman via Internet-history <
>>>>> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/20 10:52 AM, John Gilmore via Internet-history wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I answered him that thirty years of the internet has been a
>>> spectacular
>>>>>>>> time of development. Can you imagine the word fighting the COVID-19
>>>>>>>> pandemic without the internet? If there were no internet, there
>>> could
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> very little working from home, no online classes for students
>>> stuck at
>>>>>>>> home, no video communication with family and friends, much more
>>>>> loneliness,
>>>>>>> In 1992 John Perry Barlow called for "connecting every mind to every
>>>>>>> other mind in full-duplex broadband. ... The creation of ... a
>>>>>>> ubiquitous digital web, [for] ... telephone service, e-mail,
>>> software,
>>>>>>> faxes, ... 'video postcards', and, in time, High Definition
>>> Television
>>>>>>> as well as other media as yet barely imagined."  He called it The
>>> Great
>>>>>>> Work.
>>>>>> Long before that, Licklider wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The hope is that, in not too many years, human brains and computing
>>>>> machines will be coupled together very tightly, and that the resulting
>>>>> partnership will think as no human brain has ever thought and process
>>> data
>>>>> in a way not approached by the information-handling machines we know
>>>>> today."  (In "Man-Computer Symbiosis," 1960,
>>>>> https://groups.csail.mit.edu/medg/people/psz/Licklider.html)
>>>>>> And, of course, he's the one who wrote the famous "MEMORANDUM FOR:
>>>>> Members and Affiliates of the Intergalactic Computer Network," in 1963
>>> (
>>> https://www.kurzweilai.net/memorandum-for-members-and-affiliates-of-the-intergalactic-computer-network
>>>>> ).
>>>>>> Miles Fidelman
>>>>>
>>>>> Even longer before that, Mary Shelley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ???It is true, we shall be monsters, cut off from all the world; but
>>> on that
>>>>> account we shall be more attached to one another.???
>>>>>
>>>>> And a bit later, Mel Brooks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain into a seven and a half
>>> foot
>>>>> long, fifty-four inch wide GORILLA? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME????
>>> -Dr.
>>>>> Frederick Frankenstein
>>>>>
>>>>> -Don
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