[ih] Protocol numbers (was IP version 7)

[Craig Partridge]

Well there may have been multiple Metanet projects.

The BBN report I wrote re: the Proteon ring is BBN 5898, with Ben Woznick
and titled "METANET Ring Network (NET-R)" in 1985.

Frank Deckelman was the PM and as Jack mentions it was for the shipboard
LAN.

Craig

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 11:14 AM Barbara Denny <b_a_denny at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't think so.  I don't remember the name MATNET. If any knows, I think
> it would be Jim (Mathis).
>
> Craig, as far as I know the  Metanet project only involved SRI.
>
> Happy Holidays everyone!
>
> barbara
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020, 06:53:01 AM PST, Vint Cerf <
> vint at google.com> wrote:
>
>
> was there any relationship between METANET (which I do not remember) and
> MATNET (which I do remember)?
>
> v
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 9:40 AM Craig Partridge via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 7:09 PM Barbara Denny via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> >  I will throw out a guess about the mystery EMCON protocol number
> > assignment.  It might be related to SRI's work for the Navy. We had a
> > project called  Metanet that was looking at how to support TCP/IP
> > networking when ships were under emission control.  In 1984, I gave a
> > presentation about the work at a Gateway Special Interest Group Meeting
> > hosted by Jon Postel at ISI (see RFC 898).  I don't remember us asking
> for
> > a protocol number yet but we could have. I also wonder if Jon may have
> > created a placeholder for us. I was working on the Ada implementation of
> > the gateway at that point in time.  I don't think we had the EMCON
> details
> > worked out yet.  The project got cancelled unexpectedly and on short
> notice
> > due to a change in personnel if I remember correctly.
> > barbara
> >
>
>
> Hey Barbara:
>
> I didn't know you worked on METANET! That was my first project as a new
> employee at BBN in 1983.  The job on the BBN side was to figure out if
> different network topologies worked more or less well for shipboard command
> centers.  As I recall, Ken Pogran was the initial PM and got TCP/IP working
> on a bus network (Ungermann-Bass?) and then transitioned to something else,
> so Ben Woznick took over and I was hired to get TCP/IP working on the 80MB
> Proteon Ring. That was grand fun.  Rick Adams at Seismo also had a Proteon
> Ring and I gave him my driver for his network.  And I swapped email for the
> first time with Noel Chiappa -- as I recall, I was using another
> Proteon network interface driver for guidance and its comments noted that
> an old version of some Proteon board had a real halt and catch fire feature
> (if you set the initialization word wrong, smoke happened) and Noel
> observed that the comment was no longer valid. And I had the fastest
> network in Cambridge all to myself (but, alas, had nothing much to run on
> it).
>
> Craig
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