[ih] Who owns old RFCs ?

[Joseph Touch]

> On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc at dcrocker.net> wrote:
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> On 4/23/2020 4:54 PM, Joseph Touch via Internet-history wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Karl Auerbach via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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>>> I do like Vint's idea of an IETF trademark.  Other standards groups require that those who wish to place their mark on products conform to a list of specified requirements.
>> That would require a compliance process, i.e., which other orgs (USB, IEEE, etc.) have and we lack. That’s why our requirements are frequently ignored in deployments.
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> A milder approach might be post-hoc, ad hoc challenges.  A product is advertised as conforming but someone (not the IETF) claims it doesn't and demonstrates that it doesn't.

Paid for - like everything else in the IETF - the goodness in people’s hearts?

Note that the majority of large-timesink roles in the IETF are performed by people paid by vendors. The carrot of true compliance is the fee charged for compliance verification.

There’s no way to pay for a stick.

Joe