[ih] reinventing the wheel, was Internet History Lives on the Internet?

Richard Bennett richard at bennett.com
Mon Feb 25 13:24:02 PST 2019


Bittorrent doesn’t use multicast.

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> 
> Well yes, but torrent is a distribution mechanism - it's not an infrastructure for maintaining or mirroring files.  It's essentially another, sometimes more efficient, option for click-to-download (e.g., ftp, http, bittorrent).  And it's only more efficient if multiple people are downloading at the same time.
> 
> Miles
> 
> On 2/25/19 12:28 PM, Richard Bennett wrote:
>> No, Bittorrent uses DHTs and accesses as many copies of a given file as users choose to share. It has to be running to serve files, however.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net <mailto:mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/24/19 9:53 PM, John Levine wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> That's what I find intriguing about my Benevolent BotNet notion.  Rather
>>>>> than depending on finding an institution interested in, competent at,
>>>>> and willing to save history, and hoping that it has longevity, you rely
>>>>> on a network of volunteers to provide that survivable infrastructure by
>>>>> volunteering their excess computing resources.
>>>> Hi again.  Please look at Bittorrent and tell us how it is different
>>>> from what you're proposing.
>>>> 
>>>> Bittorrent has the advantage of already existing and being deployed
>>>> all over the world.  It's notorious for pirated music but it's also
>>>> widely used for sharing linux distributions and the like.
>>>> 
>>> Bit torrent is transient.  It's more like an ad-hoc multi-cast 
>>> streaming.  When nobody is downloading, there may be only one copy of 
>>> the file.
>>> 
>>> Now gnutella, and some of the other P2P file sharing systems - that 
>>> replicate copies, or distribute files across a distributed hash table - 
>>> that's another story entirely.
>>> 
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>> 
>>>> Richard Bennett
>> High Tech Forum <http://hightechforum.org/> Founder
>> Ethernet & Wi-Fi standards co-creator
>> 
>> Internet Policy Consultant
>> 
> -- 
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

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Richard Bennett
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Ethernet & Wi-Fi standards co-creator

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