[ih] internet-future mailing list ?

[Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history]

Isn't this a large part of what SIGCOMM does for a living?

https://doi.org/10.1145/3341302.3342075 for example.

Regards
   Brian

On 18-Dec-19 08:13, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 08:40:09PM -0500, Scott Brim wrote:
>> I think it depends on the scope of "Internet futures". Do you want
>> something without discipline, free-ranging, wild speculation?
> 
> No, of course not. I would like this to be a starting point for birds of
> a feather interested in actually contributing to the long-term evolution
> if the Internet. I don't think it could or should ultimately host the
> detailled work on any topic, because obviously there are too many
> sub-topics. But as a "get organized", "dispatch" find collaborators
> forum it could IMHO be extremely helpfull.
> 
>> Do you want a group in the IRTF?
> 
> In talking with the current IRTF chair, it seemed to me that he would
> not even allow to scope work in the same way as i have seen (and
> contributed to) successful IRTF work that started IETF work. So i feel
> under current leadership, IRTF work can only cope with a limited subset
> of the problem. FOr example, what i would consider architectural 
> design seems to be outside scope of both IRTF RG and IETF WG.
> 
>> Is it about engineering, policy, appearance to users ...
> 
> I would of course like to get into the interesting research,
> architecture and standardization work needed to be done to enable a
> successful future Internet, but this always needs to be justified
> from predicting/observing trends and future user and operator
> experiences. I am always frustrated by research that does not even
> try to imagine where/who needs it or whether it could be realized
> technically or operated and monetized.
> 
>> ? If there's some discipline then it could work as a mailing list,
> 
> Of course. That why i mentioned the dispatch. As soon as a the larger
> mailing list sees a particular thread of discussion to be alble to
> move out into a better venue, that should happen.
> 
>> otherwise IMHO it would be a waste of time. On the other hand, a
>> free-ranging discussion could be fun and enlightening if it were a biweekly
>> one-hour live videochat among anyone who wanted to show up (with time and
>> day varying to suit participants around the world).
> 
> I don't think these two are exclusive to each other. I like the idea of
> a chat as well. I've kinda outgrown video, but i could try an avatar.
> 
> https://dilbert.com/strip/1994-06-07
> 
> Cheers
>     Toerless
> 
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