[ih] Fiction->History
Miles Fidelman
mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
Thu Sep 24 09:56:53 PDT 2015
A few more obvious ones comes to mind:
"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
"Colossus: The Forbin Project" - and lots of variants on that theme (up
to, and including, the Terminator movies -- and what with automatically
swarming drones now a reality, somehow Skynet seems to loom on the near
horizon!)
"Shockwave Rider" - which seemed to get an awful lot of things right,
for its time
Miles Fidelman
Bill Ricker wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon at cox.net
> <mailto:larrysheldon at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>
> Fiction->History
>
> There are two sorts of SciFi (aside from the Fantastic) - those that
> aren't facts yet
> but likely will be if we persevere, and those that could be facts if
> we screw things up even worse. Those writing near-term SF are well
> advised to leverage William Gibson's aphorism "The future is already
> here - it's just not evenly distributed" to sniff out what is in the
> labs and the pockets of the early adopters.
>
>
> In 1977 there was a book titled “The Adolescence of P-1” (Thomas
> Joseph
> Ryan)
>
>
> I thought I remembered this was either serialized or first appeared as
> a novella in one of the magazines before release as a book, but Google
> finds no proof of that? Odd.
> There was a flurry of pre-cyber-punk AI / rogue-programmer stories
> in Analog in the late 70's, i recall one featured a female hacker but
> i forget the title, and that it was the month before or after P-1 so
> it seemed a trend.
>
> There are plenty of listicles that catalog SciFi
> stories/concepts/widgets that became reality -- partly through
> invention of the engineering fact being easier after invention of the
> idea as fiction, as testified to by the inventor of Cellphones being
> inspired by Kirk's (Roddenbery's) communicator -- but has this been
> treated in the full academic style as literature-and-society or
> history of science? I don't know. I am remiss in not surveying
> academic treatment of SciFi as LitCrit in between Padlipsky's thesis
> (latterly of MULTICS and this I-H list) and Gannon's [1] /Rumors of
> War/ [2] and Pournelle's SIGMA [3], which respectively study and
> practice influence of SF on military and government policy.
> If there isn't yet an academic study of the influence of P-1 and
> the following Cyber-punk movement on Silicon valley et al in any/all
> aspects (network, OS, application, User interface), it's due, it's ripe.
> If we don't get an answer on this list, i can ask Chuck Gannon and
> network through my other SF&F friends to see who if anyone is working
> such.
>
> (I do highly recommend /Rumors of War/, particularly if you admired
> MAP's literary writing style as i do and are interested in social
> impact of early English-language SciFi on the military.)
>
> [1] http://www.charlesegannon.com/BioTop.html
> [2] http://isbn.nu/9780742540354
> [3]
> http://www.onthemedia.org/story/129496-science-fiction-in-the-national-interest/transcript/
>
>
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