[ih] the .su domaine I

[Nigel Roberts]

I talked to some of the SU people about this about 10 years ago.

.SU is a curious beast in some ways.

One minor reasons is that there are actually parts of the former Soviet 
Union that are not part of Russia, but do not have either full 
sovereignty, or are under the effective control of the successor state 
that nominallh claims sovereignty.

The major reason is that there is a significant lacuna in ccTLD policy 
regarding the retirement of ccTLDs.

It was never envisaged in either RFC1591, RFC920 or any of the 
predecessor RFCs.

ICANN and IANA, not apparently having formal powers, has nonetheless in 
several of the examples given, artificially short imposed deadlines for 
removal from the root.

A pragmatist would say a ccTLD needs to remain while there is a need for it.

And ss any librarian, or genealogist will tell you, the name of a 
country is four-dimensional  -- even countries that appear to have had a 
continuous existence for a long time.

For example, Oscar Wilde was born on on October 16th, 1854 in Dublin, 
UK. Any encoding of that must, I would suggest use GB, not IE.

Trieste was neither in Italy nor France until 1954. So anyone we know 
who was born there was not born in either country.

There are many examples of this sort of thing.

(The ccNSO has identified that a policy developent process needs to take 
place regarding retirment of ccTLDs. It just hasn't happened yet.)





On 30/12/15 01:16, John Levine wrote:
> In article <568323CB.4000303 at gmail.com> you write:
>> What does this statement in the full story mean?
>>
>>> This is why a top level “.su” domain (for Soviet Union) still remains on the domain
>> market today, despite ICANN’s requests to delete it.
>>
>> As every fule know, su is "Exceptionally reserved" in IS3166, the same status as uk.
>> Its ownership is presumably a national matter for Russia, as the main successor state of
>> the USSR.
>
> It isn't the matter of the ownership, it's the matter of a country
> code TLD for a country that no longer exists.  In all the other cases
> I can think of, when a country changed its name or dissolved, the
> ccTLD went away less than five years later.  There is no longer a .cs
> or .yu or .zr TLD, but here it is 14 years after the end of the USSR
> and .su is still going strong.
>
> R's,
> John
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