[ih] internet-history Digest, Vol 83, Issue 5

Bob Braden braden at isi.edu
Wed Feb 12 11:24:28 PST 2014

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> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:00 AM, John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com> wrote:
>>   Here's the manual for the slightly earlier Fortran Monitor System in 1961:
>> http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102663112
>> On page 64 it says:
>>    The first record of the Monitor is the "Sign-On" record. This
>>    may be programmed by the installation to handle accounting or
>>    other identifying information pertaining to a job.
>> I expect that if we poked around more, we'd find more, earlier stuff.  In
>> the 1950s computers were phenomenally expensive, and I find it hard to
>> believe many of them were run without provision to charge back the costs to
>> the users.  Unless there is some arcane kind of bookkeeping I never heard

There was no place to put the data because memory was very expensive and 
small, and I/O devices
expensive, at least in the Big Blue world where I mostly lived. OTOH, 
the compile-and-go
operation on Stanford's B220 did record job times, at least I think it 
did. This was early 1960s.
Probably punched clock values and job names on an IBM card. The actual 
accounting must
have been done offline.

Larry Breed, who wrote the very simple OS to log jobs on and off would know.

Bob Braden

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