[ih] NIC, InterNIC, and Modelling Administration
Miles Fidelman
mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
Fri Feb 18 04:27:31 PST 2011
Richard Bennett wrote:
> People bring proposals to standards bodies, who choose among them,
> modify them, accept them and reject them. "Existing practices" in the
> most interesting cases are confined to the lab or even to simulation
> these days.
Which is distinctly different than bottom-up in the IETF sense. The
distinction isn't bottom-up vs. top-down, it's more one of
semi-collaborative, get it right ("rough consensus and running code" so
to speak) vs. vendor's battling out who's existing products will have to
be modified when the standard gets finalized.
> I think you're making a false distinction between OSI and other
> networking standards. OSI problem was mainly that it was not top-down
> enough, had too many cooks, and had to offer too many options to
> achieve consensus.
And that comes back to the lack of a bottom-up process that emphasized
running code. My impression of the OSI work was that it was way too
theoretical and political.
There are real lessons to be learned here. I see a lot of the same
dynamics in today's geospatial standards work through the OGC - lot's of
theoretical wrangling, resulting in standards that sort of work, but
have to be fixed in later revisions, and that largely get ignored by
most of the world (take a look at how many people use ESRI's proprietary
stuff, vs. Google's APIs, vs. OGC standard WMS and WFS; or maybe look at
the rapid adoption of RESTful intefaces vs. W3C web service standards).
Miles Fidelman
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In<fnord> practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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