[ih] NIC, InterNIC, and Modelling Administration

[John Day]

At 0:16 +0000 2011/02/18, Eric Gade wrote:
>I partially agree with you, and I didn't mean to engage in that kind 
>of tautology. Of course, what I mean is IFIP, whose work was 
>intended to contribute to OSI (IFIP reports describe the WG 6.5 work 
>as pre-standards work for OSI). I should point out, however, that I 
>never referred to X.500 and that has crept into the conversation in 
>some other way.

The only OSI directory work was X.500.  So if you are talking about 
OSI views on directory you can only mean X.500.

IFIP was a liaison organization to ISO, not a member body.  You 
really need to tighten up your language.  IFIP is not OSI.

>
>This also may just be a matter of dissonant worldviews. Where in OSI 
>you see a series of discrete, technically explicit standards, I see 
>an (overly?) ambitious, top-down standards project for computer 
>networking that was unprecedented by international standards work at 
>the time. It reflects a

I know what OSI was.  I was rapporteur of the Reference Model, head 
of US delegation to WG1.

You have third hand view of OSI, I have a first hand view.

I am well aware at how ambitious it was and also well aware of its 
internal conflicts.  Whether it was top down or not, there was an 
attempt to ensure that the various parts all fit to a common 
structure.  Although that was easier said than done.

>profounding optimistic perspective that relies on a consistently 
>global view concerning the application of these technologies. Those 
>involved in this overal project were obviously going to bring this 
>optimism and global perspective to whatever related projects that 
>they were involved with. IFIP people were involved with DNS and the 
>work of IFIP was the closest related to the same issues that DNS 
>addressed.

Again, IFIP was not OSI. They didn't even have a vote in ISO.  They 
didn't even constitute a majority of the X.500 subgroup.  If you want 
to talk about the influence of IFIP on DNS that do that.  But don't 
tell me that it is the influence of OSI on DNS. You might even want 
to chronicle the influence of IFIP on OSI.

But then you weren't there so I am sure you have a better perspective 
than I do.

Take care,
John