[ih] History of Network Virtual Terminal (NVT)

[John Day]

Actually, my question is who came up with making the protocol symmetrical?

That was the brilliant insight, even more so than the NVT.  Everyone 
else saw this problem as an assymmetric terminal to host protocol. 
What made Telnet unique and so useful was seeing it as symmetircal.

I stell teach Telnet, not because everyone uses Telnet but as 
examples of insightful design.  Also the go-ahead solution for the 
same reason.

Take care,
John

At 11:38 -0500 2010/01/22, Vint Cerf wrote:
>Bernie,
>
>thanks so much for setting this straight - i had not remembered the 
>strong extent of the BBN work here.
>
>vint
>
>
>On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
>
>>On 22 Jan 2010 at 10:38, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>
>>>this was an idea that emerged from the network working group.
>>
>>Indeed, but a lot of the details ended up being done by me and bob
>>Clements.  I was implementing the NVT stuff on the TIP [and trying to get
>>the @#$%@#$% IBM 2741 to play nice] and Bob was working with the
>>corresponding code on TENEX, so since we were just a few offices away we
>>could easily try ideas and debug things.
>>
>>>... As I recall, Dave
>>>Walden was a strong proponent of the Do/Don't/Will/Won't idea.
>>
>>Actually, I did that.  We were playing with the problems of asynchronous
>>negotiation and I worked out the details of D/D/W/W on napkins on the
>>airplane as dave and I were flying to UCLA for a telnet meeting [at which
>>DDWW was presented].
>>
>>  /Bernie\
>>
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