[ih] ARPAnet maps?

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Sat Aug 1 14:29:15 PDT 2009


Yes, there was.  As I said, I can't remember the number or when it 
disappeared.  (It was pretty early. You can't get many ASCII 
character boxes on a single sheet of paper.)  In fact, I even have a 
vague recollection of it being sufficiently popular that people were 
asked not to over use it.

>I don't remember if we had a map socket. We did have a survey socket 
>that gave you status on socket 243. If I recall correctly, Mark 
>Kampe had something to do with that.
>
>-- charley
>
>
>From: Steve Crocker [mailto:steve at shinkuro.com]
>Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:37 AM
>To: Vint Cerf
>Cc: Steve Crocker; John Day; Charles Kline; Noel Chiappa; 
>internet-history at postel.org
>Subject: Re: [ih] ARPAnet maps?
>
>Alex McKenzie would be the guy to check with.
>
>Steve
>
>On Aug 1, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>
>>john,
>>
>>boy I sure don't remember that.
>>
>>charley, steve, do you?
>>
>>v
>>
>>On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:34 AM, John Day wrote:
>>
>>>No, guys.  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>The ones you want are the ones that were produced by a program at 
>>>NMC.  Does anyone remember what the well-known socket number at 
>>>SEX was that one connected to to get a *current* ARPANet map 
>>>indicating what hosts were up and down?
>>>
>>>
>>>I think it went away when the map would no longer fit on a single 
>>>piece of paper or not long after it had to go to a second page.
>>>
>>>
>>>These others are just vague artist's renderings!  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>Take care,
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>At 9:43 -0400 2009/08/01, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>>
>>>>   > From: Bob Braden <<mailto:braden at ISI.EDU>braden at ISI.EDU>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   > we try to collect all the (readable and undamaged) images of ARPAnet
>>>>
>>>>   > maps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ditto for early Internet maps. I have a wonderful fairly early 
>>>>one from 1982
>>>>
>>>>(by Jon Postel) that's notable for having only Class A network 
>>>>numbers on it
>>>>
>>>>(that one's up on Wikipedia). It would be nice to collect all similar very
>>>>
>>>>early ones (since those exist in probably very limited numbers, in physical
>>>>
>>>>form).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   > From: "William Plummer" 
>>>><<mailto:William.Plummer at alum.mit.edu>William.Plummer at alum.mit.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   > I heard Larry Roberts tell an audience in about 1975 that the ARPANet
>>>>
>>>>   > had grown to the point he could no longer make a meaningful map of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe he meant 'from memory'? BBN certainly produced nice maps all the way
>>>>
>>>>through its lifetime.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, the Internet, that's something it's now hard to produce a 
>>>>meaningful map
>>>>
>>>>of! :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Noel
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