[ih] forwarded post - need help on history of A-Root server's delegation
Joe Touch
touch at ISI.EDU
Tue Aug 19 17:01:23 PDT 2003
(forwarded on behalf of charles.simon at cigref.fr)
PS - some gaps inserted by my rewrapping tool; blame me if they're in
the wrong place
-- Joe Touch
Postel Center Director
USC/ISI
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> Hi,
>
> I'm new here so please forgive me if I break any written or unwritten
> rules (didn't find any of those 2 on the website anyway). English is
> also a foreign language to me so pardon my French.
>
> I'm currently working at the Cigref which is a French CIO's
> association (www.cigref.fr). Some of you may know my boss, Sébastien
> Bachollet, as he is the one reviewing the latest gTLDs'
> introduction's process for ICANN (fell free to flame on). At the
> moment, I'm finishing a short paper on the Internet for our members
> to get a clue on what ICANN and other Internet's actors do and do
> not. As we were reviewing the latest version of our work, one
> question rose: who gave NSI/VeriSign the authority to manage the
> A-Root server?
>
> After 3 days working on it, I came up with a little story and I'd need
> someone to validate it. I Hope some of you could help me out.
>
> So here goes the story as I get it based on official documents and
> some quick e-mails with people from AT&T.
>
> In 1998, the Internet Green and White Papers state that "currently,
> NSI operates the A root server" but it is merely a fact, it does not
indicate when the delegation first took place. Then the Amendment 11
> to the Cooperative Agreement Between NSI and the U.S. Government
> authorized NSI's continued operation of the primary root server. It
> looks and tastes like a renewal of delegation from the USG to NSI
> but, then again, it doesn't say when the A Root server's management
> was delegated in the first place and, most importantly, by whom.
>
> I found some writings saying the A root server's delegation to NSI
> came down from the NSF/NSI Agreement (Cooperative Agreement NO.
> NCR-9218742) effective from January 1, 1993 on. Someone who was part
> of InterNIC on behalf of AT&T also thinks it came down from there. He
> remembers the first day of operation as being 4/1/1993 with
> presentations later at the IETF plenary session in Columbus. I
> couldn't check it myself, the Columbus meeting was the 26th meeting
> of the IETF and the proceedings served on IETF's site start only with
> the 29th one.
>
> What bugged me in this story was that the Cooperative Agreement only
> aim at registration services and, on October 19, 1992, in the course
> of discussing its agreement with the NSF, NSI published a so-called
"Proposal for Network Information Services Manager(s) for NSFNET and
NREN" which led to InterNIC to be formed (see it there:
>
http://www.base.com/gordoni/thoughts/dns-control/rs.internic.net/nsf/nis/proposal-toc.html).
>
> In this proposal, it is said (see section K of the proposal): "Network
> Solutions [...] manages the domain root server for the entire
> Internet".
>
> So I guess they meant the root system, right? So it mean NSI manage
> the root system before 1993, still right? At the same time, somewhere
> else in the proposal (Appendix B), it is said NSI was only a
> subcontractor to Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) and
> handled the root system for military uses. After scratching my head
> quite a bit, I came to the conclusion the meaning of some terms used
> in the Cooperative Agreement changed in the course of time. Like the
> term "registration" was pretty much wider at the time that it is
> today so it mislead me to wrong conclusions when reading the
> Cooperative Agreement. The result of the Cooperative agreement was
> indeed to delegate the root's management to NSI directly and for
> non-military uses when NSI did actually manage it before but under
> indirect contract with the DISA and for military uses.
>
> This theory goes along quite well with Article 3.A of the Agreement
("The Awardee shall provide to non-military internet users and
> networks all necessary registration services (which were) previously
> provided by the Defense Information Systems Agency Network
> Information Center(the DISA NIC)").
>
> That's the story as I got it. Can someone confirms that the facts
> above are acurate and possibly corrects what's wrong, adds up things
> I forgot?
>
> While working on the subject, I also encountered further questions.
> Back to the NSF's story, this institution only delegated 3 things in
> early 1993:
>
> (i) Registration Services,
> (ii) Director and Database Services,
> and (iii) Information Services for the NSFNET.
>
> NSI was assigned the first job, AT&T the second, General Atomics the
> third. Following NSI's proposal, the 3 delegees joined up to build up
> InterNIC. In December 1994, when the Midterm Evaluation by NSF took
> place, General Atomics got dismissed. Then, in december 1997, NSI got
> InterNIC out of the IP allocation's loop (Amendment 7 to Cooperative
> Agreement Between NSI and U.S. Government) and ARIN showed up. From
> then on and until ICANN popped up, I don't know what happened.
>
> So, I just have 2 questions on that subject, maybe some old-timers
> could answer them:
>
> - does someone know where to find the original agreements between
> AT&T and the NSF (Cooperative Agreement NCR-9218179), General Atomics
> and the NSF (Cooperative Agreement NCR-9218749)?
>
> - how did AT&T and NSI get along regarding InterNIC until InterNIC
> was passed over to ICANN and who did what (respective jobs of NSI,
> AT&T)?
>
> I heard AT&T trademarked InterNIC at the time and then passed it to
> the DoC. If it's true and as I read somewhere else NSI tried to fly
> away with InterNIC's name and homepage when ICANN jumped in, I guess
> it should have been ugly at the time. Overall, Internet history is
> quite a mess to me so I hope you could help me getting my ideas
> straight on those few points.
>
> Thanks for reading this so far, I hope I'm not spamming, I sent a
> previous version last week but it seems it didn't make it to the list
>
> Charles
>
> Ps: oh, also, I know root-servers' operators are generally volunteers
> picked up by Postel at the time but my questions are really specific
> as it seems the process for delegating the A-root is kinda special.
> Thanks again.
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