[Chapter-delegates] Final Call for Input on the Chapter Charter Agreement (Deadline: 15 September)

Thu Oct 1 15:04:25 PDT 2026

Hi all,

I am just now checking this thread, and since I bizarrely kind of like this
very boring subject of reviewing governance documents, I thought dropping a
few comments could, hopefully, be helpful!

   - Concrete suggestions, like the ones in many comments here, are really
   useful for those reviewing the text. That is probably the best way to have
   concerns heard, not only by pointing out the issue, but also by proposing a
   solution or an alternative. It also helps confirm the problem is real by
   grounding it in concrete terms. It is really nice to see this effort from
   the chapters; it is rare to see a community that tries to be that efficient
   with their contributions, as we can see here!
   - ISOC usually has a good standard for documenting discussions and
   meetings, even when we couldn't be part of them. Although reading these
   materials can be tiring for that very reason, it’s useful when we are
   thinking about not transferring our very natural need to save time to
   others. Notes help a lot to avoid reviving debates that have already taken
   place, and to answer the most common questions that tend to arise - which
   is something that helps everyone involved go forward more expeditiously
   (which is also a very good reason to publish the contributions that
   chapters made to the review proposal).
   - This last one is more of a personal note: those discussions are most
   productive when they receive personal/collective opinions, and the format
   in which those opinions are presented does not really matter. So, IMHO, it
   is best to avoid fully AI-generated comments. Most people use AI to review
   this kind of work nowadays, looking for flaws or objective possibilities of
   improvement, so they will likely do the same (or already have) in one phase
   of the review, and the suggestions an AI tool makes will be part of the
   process at some point. Those tools are very useful for the people
   organizing the inputs and adding them to the governance text, but they
   don't really add much to the improvement discussion (meaning the input from
   the community) itself.

Very interesting comments here overall, and, again, nice to see that much
engagement from our community (:

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Em qui., 1 de out. de 2026 às 16:48, Carlos Vera via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu:

> Thank you. It was the ? in the passcode.. Also the other links work fine
> for Q1 and Q2..
>
> Carlos Vera
>
> El jue, 1 oct 2026 a las 12:18, Flávio Rech Wagner (<flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>)
> escribió:
>
>> Hi Carlos
>>
>> The link and password are working for me. Could you please check again?
>> If you still have problems, please contact me directly.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Flávio
>>
>> I was trying to access this
>>
>> Reference: Q3 Full ChAC Call Recording:
>>
>> https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc
>>  (Passcode: ?=3YF98F)
>>
>> It seems I making some mistake in the passcode.. it says is wrong...
>>
>> Is there a list of call recording to navigate? If so can you please share
>> here?
>>
>> I'm also interested in the Q2 call and others related to the ChAC Charter
>> (not only the Chapter Charter)
>>
>> Thank you for your help
>>
>> Carlos Vera
>>
>> El mié, 23 sept 2026 a las 13:00, Flávio Rech Wagner (<
>> flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>) escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Carlos
>>> Regarding the rationale for updating the Chapter Charter Agreement,
>>> please refer to the agenda
>>> <https://isoc.box.com/s/j3u43egd9wx7c0wd9cvilt85zltvo65a> and the
>>> recording (see link and password below) of yesterday’s Full ChAC Call.
>>>
>>> At the bottom ("Notes" section) of the agenda there is a note as a
>>> reminder of the rationale and context behind the revision of the Chapter
>>> Charter Agreement, referring to the ChAC Action Plan for 2026 (shared with
>>> the ChAC during the Q1 Full ChAC Call) and to the Chapter DNA document
>>> (presented during the Q2 Full ChAC Call), with appropriate links.
>>>
>>> The current consultation on a new version of the Chapter Charter
>>> Agreement is thus a subsequent step in this process and follows those two
>>> previous steps, that were presented and discussed with all ChAC
>>> representatives during the Q1 and Q2 Full ChAC Calls.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Flávio
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Reference: Q3 Full ChAC Call Recording:
>>>
>>> https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc
>>>  (Passcode: ?=3YF98F)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I would like to reiterate that I do not see a clear rationale for
>>> changing the agreement with the Chapters. The fact that it has only been in
>>> force for eight years is not, in itself, a problem. On the contrary, it is
>>> generally desirable to have agreements that are durable and remain valid
>>> over time.
>>>
>>> At this point, we have not been presented with clear arguments
>>> explaining why the agreement should be changed or what specifically needs
>>> to be changed.
>>>
>>> The process seems to have moved directly to requesting input on possible
>>> changes without first establishing a clear understanding of their purpose
>>> and rationale. This risks becoming a process without a clearly stated
>>> justification or any evident benefits.
>>>
>>> Is there any analysis supporting this proposal? Are there specific areas
>>> of the current agreement that have created conflicts, difficulties, or
>>> identified needs that should be considered?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Carlos Vera
>>> ISOC Ecuador
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El mar, 22 sept 2026 a las 23:55, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates
>>> (<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>) escribió:
>>>
>>>> On 17/09/2026 18:28, Flávio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> After the Q3 ChaC meeting yesterday, I think it worthwhile that those
>>>> who submitted changes post them here since the CHaC is not allowed to.
>>>> There is no limitation on someone who submitted a change to voluntarily
>>>> post what they submitted.
>>>>
>>>> To remind everyone of the various documents:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf
>>>> [8 year old current charter agreement]
>>>>
>>>> https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf
>>>>
>>>> https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568
>>>> https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32 [proposed
>>>> 1st draft new charter agreement]
>>>>
>>>> So in the context of creating a broader discussion I will start with
>>>> the 3 changes I submitted specifically not addressed by the proposed
>>>> changes but rather on analysis of the current proposed charter agreement as
>>>> listed above:
>>>>
>>>> a.  Paragraph 1 states "Establish a not-for-profit (or similar) entity
>>>> within the Territory" - yet the word territory remains undefined. Can
>>>> territories overlap? Can a single building in a city with 40 apartments
>>>> be called a territory?
>>>> b. In section 3 it states "Developing, maintaining, and adhering to
>>>> articles of association, bylaws, or equivalent governing documents,"
>>>> but there is no requirement to make these documents public. ISOC
>>>> encourages transparency yet there is no indication in the revised
>>>> charter to require transparency via making all of those documents
>>>> publicly available.
>>>> c. In section B.1.b the term "Good Standing" remains undefined
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to hearing what others submitted and to have an open
>>>> discussion on all the proposed amendments.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>> Dear Hank
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your valuable feedback on the consultation.
>>>>
>>>> As Christine already expressed in a previous message to this list, we
>>>> will now, based on the feedback received so far, work on the next iteration
>>>> of the draft Chapter Charter Agreement. Once this is ready, the proposed
>>>> text will then go through another, final, round of community consultation.
>>>> This will allow all chapters that would like to provide additional input to
>>>> do so.
>>>>
>>>> As the feedback form for the current consultation did not ask
>>>> contributors to consent to their individual responses being shared
>>>> publicly, there is no plan to publish individual submissions in this round. We
>>>> regret that there was no such provision. In the next consultation
>>>> round, there will be a clear option for chapters to indicate whether their
>>>> feedback may be shared publicly or attributed.
>>>>
>>>> Although individual submissions in this first round will not be shared
>>>> publicly, a summary of the main themes raised through the consultation will
>>>> be shared in turn, along with an explanation on how those themes were
>>>> considered in the next iteration of the Chapter Charter Agreement revision.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Flávio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I assume many other ChAC
>>>> reps have done.
>>>> What I have not seen is an archive of submissions and the status of
>>>> comments/changes requested.
>>>> Can someone point me to where that might be?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hank Nussbacher
>>>> ISOC-IL
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
>>> Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
>>> Presidente da ISOC Brasil
>>> ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair
>>>
>>> --
>> Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
>> Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
>> Presidente da ISOC Brasil
>> ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair
>>
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