[Chapter-delegates] {Disarmed} AMS Celebration Day 2025

Mon Mar 17 22:09:08 PDT 2025

Nevertheless, thanks for the update Klaus. Am always interested to hear/read 
what you have to say ... especially about new AMS/Fonteva which still has issues 
and is a headache to this day, several years later.

WYn

On 3/16/2025 1:11 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>
> I revoke the tracker accusation wrt to 
> http://cdn.mailscanner.info/1x1spacer.gif. The domain cdn.mailscanner.info 
> doesn't even exist. I think it is just normal garbage - no threat. Sorry for 
> carelessly telling nonsense while it is such a sunny day!
>
> Klaus Birkenbihl via Chapter-delegates wrote on 15.03.25 13:01:
>>
>> Dear Chapter Leaders,
>>
>> once upon a time ... In order to support its work for an open, accessible, 
>> and strong Internet; in order to protect it against monopolistic attacks from 
>> big companies; in order to foster innovation, creativity and unexpected use, 
>> ISOC has set-up an Advanced Membership administration System (AMS). It was 
>> implemented carefully following open standards (as from IETF, W3C ...), 
>> providing excellent usability, privacy, and accessibility. A carefully chosen 
>> Internet-canny and innovative medium size company was mandated with the 
>> implementation. An internal group of ISOC experts carefully supervised this 
>> work ... and they lived happily ever after.
>>
>> OK, just kidding. Seriously, back in 2020 ISOC had the audacious idea to let 
>> members participate in the requirements analysis for AMS. This was called 
>> Membernova Initiative. (To be fair: ISOC took care that this did not effect 
>> much.) Membernova was the name of the AMS used back then. In order to 
>> recognize the progress since then a Membernova anniversary day was launched 
>> to be on March 15th. But Membernova is history now and so the anniversary had 
>> to be renamed in 2024. The new name is "AMS celebration day".
>>
>> There are too many open issues with AMS. E.g. unfortunately I'm still not 
>> allowed to provide AMS with a list of registered Chapter Members. So AMS has 
>> to live with fake data. And I have to admit that my last year's promise, to 
>> show you how to register Chapter Members with AMS, cannot be resolved therefor.
>>
>> So I decided to make E-Mail communication within ISOC this year's subject. 
>> Remember: with AMS we "make simple things complex again" and mess it all up.
>>
>> ISOC obviously uses different styles of group communication. There is e.g. 
>> this Chapter-delegates mailing list. Members receive messages to the mailing 
>> list and these are synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal. 
>> Simple filters allow to archive and search messages with any modern mail 
>> client. Good so.
>>
>> Not so other groups like Internet Policy, Community Portal Updates and more. 
>> Mails go to my private Mail address sent by an anonymous mailer at isoc.de with 
>> an awesome "Reply to" something like
>>
>>     3uykghtxob3jjt10.6tazq4euh6jfcvrj at l1ef2ykhvgrduwm3.olow1.dn-71ceimaa.usa576.chatter.salesforce.com.
>>
>>
>> And to make it even more transparent many mails end with:
>>
>>     <img src=*MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>>     "cdn.mailscanner.info" claiming to be*
>>     "http://cdn.mailscanner.info/1x1spacer.gif" width="2" height="1" alt="Web
>>     Bug from https://community.internetsociety.org/servlet/eM=M... />
>>
>> You know what? Mails containing a "1x1spacer.gif" are considered trackers and 
>> classified as spam by my filters. (And my DNS blocks cdn.mailscanner.info.)
>>
>> Mails often end with: "We respect your right to privacy - view our policy". 
>> which hold a link to e.g.
>>
>>     https://click.mail.isoc.org/?qs=3eea61e07305feba25a3e0b896d16568f693a88f5fe8b4728dd2782620aca1c488d971cd4b0dd92fdb2846741df7ff219139d284110d4e6a
>>
>>
>> or
>>
>>     https://click.mail.isoc.org/?qs=3eea61e07305feba2e236580bb16e112b5220dbefb1c6641982304fd26f3b8d7f25dbd0d796bb0695e1c7bb67cfc285621382b95c3577db2.
>>
>>
>> Obviously there are many links to ISOC's privacy policy. "Honi soit qui mal y 
>> pense" as our french colleagues would comment.
>>
>> Beside of this there is much more progress. E.g. I used to receive E-Mails 
>> containing contact data for individuals who expressed interest in a Chapters 
>> membership. I used to process these mails by a script to welcome people and 
>> inform about our fee policy. Most people lost their interest in a membership 
>> when they read "fee" and where dropped from our database automatically. With 
>> the new AMS these mails were discontinued. When I complained mails were sent 
>> again. Good so? The only message in the new mails is "somebody has expressed 
>> interest". Privacy by ISOC.
>>
>> I also hate to be subscribed to lists or groups automatically. I'd prefer 
>> opt-in - just to keep track - but being registered by default. But that's 
>> another story.
>>
>> Long live salesforce.com! Don't worry and have a happy AMS celebration day,
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>> -- 
>> Klaus Birkenbihl
>> Internet Society German Chapter (ISOC.DE) e.V.
>> c/o ict-Media GmbH
>> https://www.isoc.de
>>
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> -- 
> Klaus Birkenbihl
> Internet Society German Chapter (ISOC.DE) e.V.
> c/o ict-Media GmbH
> https://www.isoc.de
>
> _______________________________________________
> As a Chapter Leader, you are automatically added to the Internet Society’s Chapter Leaders Community Group and the Chapter Delegates e-list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://community.internetsociety.org.
> The Internet Society has a legitimate interest to communicate with its chapter leaders, you will therefore remain subscribed for the duration of your term and will be unsubscribed automatically when your term ends.
> Please note that the archive of this list is publicly accessible and may be viewed by anyone. By submitting information to this list and contributing to the communications, you acknowledge that the contents will be publicly visible.
> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/
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