[Chapter-delegates] isoc-ams API released (for developing, geekish, and bugged out ISOC AMS Admins only!)

[Klaus Birkenbihl]

Scott,

thanks for looking at it and for your comments.

Scott Manser wrote on 18.07.25 22:15:
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>  1. *A note on member registration:*The one function we can't support is adding members via email. The self-registration portal is a crucial step where new members agree to the terms and privacy policy. This is a legal requirement that protects both the member and the organization, so it must remain a user-driven action.
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Just to make it clear:

 1. We are talking about ISOC Global members that are legally registered Chapter members according to respective Chapter bylaws - some of them were Chapter members long before ISOC's AMSs even existed. So registering them as Chapter members with AMS does not change their legal state. The only change is: ISOC takes notice of their Chapter membership. They agreed to this when they joined both ISOC and the Chapter. No privacy issues at all. The user-driven action took place before.
 2. This said: what would be a practical solution? This is the only suggestion I heard from AMS folks so far: these Chapter members should go to the AMS page. Meaning*:*
     1. *log in [*shit, lost my password ... /finally with some luck/*] ->*
     2. *community portal -> *
     3. *join your local Chapter [*did so before: done, logout ... /no, please/*] click -> *
     4. *wait, wait wait ..., -> *
     5. *search for the local Chapter when found -> *
     6. *click apply -> *[You mean apply again? why that?]
     7. *click submit to "confirm your interest in becoming a member of the x Chapter"*. [confirm what?]
 3. This process is definitely rather confusing than legally relevant. (Was there any privacy hint on the way? Something like "I agree that my personal data ...").
 4. So: Is this a viable solution? Seriously? Not sure if ISOC still has still some relics of technical reputation to lose - but e.g. requesting this from an ISOC member who recently had her 25th Chapter membership anniversary is definitely pitiful, insane and IMHO disrespectful. An organization that teaches the world accessibility, usability ... (you name it) should avoid such churlishness.
 5. *Urgent: Please provide a clean effortless method to register Chapter members with AMS, that avoids molesting and confusing them.*

>  1. *This is a community-supported tool:*We see this as a community-led project. Like any tool that cleverly works with a live website, it may need updates if the AMS portal changes.
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I'm fully aware of this and everybody who read the README and uses it should know it too. I rank the risk of changes medium-high and but probably manageable. If not - so what? Was worth a try to start a discussion. But first of all: *I'd be happy to dump the hole stuff to trash if ISOC AMS would finally come-up with an official API as was a request since former Membernova was released (2015 I guess)*.

Anyhow: thanks for your mail which may help clarification.

Best

Klaus

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Klaus Birkenbihl
Internet Society German Chapter (ISOC.DE) e.V.
c/o ict-Media GmbH
https://www.isoc.de
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